Philip Bump: The post-debate Times poll is interesting in part because several groups (Black voters, under 30, men) now view the race as they did in April. Polling averages, though, show a modest shift against Biden in a race where such shifts can be a big problem. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...

The post-debate Times poll is interesting in part because several groups (Black voters, under 30, men) now view the race as they did in April. Polling averages, though, show a modest shift against Biden in a race where such shifts can be a big problem. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...

Analysis | One question answered: The debate made Biden’s position worsewww.washingtonpost.com Countless questions, most unanswerable, remain.

A debate that few watched didn't move the polls. It's the pundit narrative afterwards! Which is just straight up R talking points - that Biden is too old. Imagine if the media/pundit narrative was instead about how unhinged Trump was/is. Could've moved the needle the other way.

2 comments: 1. Harris might do better with the PV but worse with the EC (those pesky midwestern whites) 2. Since you mentioned 2012 (internals vs public): www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-...

How The Obama Campaign's Polls Got It Rightwww.huffpost.com How The Obama Campaign's Polls Got It Right

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