King Quakemaker: Also, for as much as I adore Koraidon It and Miraidon aren’t really “legendaries” or at least they don’t feel like it. They’re just paradox forms of a common pokemon (Cyclizar). The likes of Lugia and Ho-Oh have actual legends around them, haha

"Lugia wasn't even supposed to be in Gen 2" and yet it's still cooler than everything else around it Hmmmm

I'll also just readily admit every time I hear "but the new ones are relevant to the Plot" I roll my eyes hard because Ah yes the riveting Plot of a Pokemon game Environmental storytelling in these titles is far better imo

Also, for as much as I adore Koraidon It and Miraidon aren’t really “legendaries” or at least they don’t feel like it. They’re just paradox forms of a common pokemon (Cyclizar). The likes of Lugia and Ho-Oh have actual legends around them, haha

I find I just have stronger opinions about newer Pokemon in general. Maybe just cause I was born the year red and blue came out so I grew up with the early generations, and they're just passively a part of my awareness.

I kinda feel ya, I'm a Yellow version person myself. I still like Sun and Moon, Sword and Shield, Legends. The newest one just don't have as much of that exploratory sensibility, despite being open world. I get bits of that, but a lot of it feels hollow

For me the games peaked on the DS and any 3D mainline game is very much not worth playing, but I was strictly talking in terms of visual designs of the Pokemon themselves

I love them honestly, and I'm not a huge S and V fan. Sometimes it is neat to have the big mon of the region, or at least on the box, have a more direct relationship with the player. It's just weird that the only way that can be is "in service of the bog standard story"

They have more of a legendary feel to them than the "legendary birds" who are just Big.

Gotta disagree there, feels like the 5 birds have a lot of setup, ESPECIALLY the Johto birds. They both get their own dungeons and plenty of NPC dialogue.

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