Deva Woodly: Mmmhmm. Yes, that is noted. Cops aren’t better, it’s just better for us when there are fewer of them and when people are materially investing in alternatives to policing.

For the “nothing happened” after 2020 crowd. Actually something is still happening-changes sparked by movement are ongoing.Police departments are smaller&experiments (yes experiments!)in public safety beyond policing are more funded&widespread than ever.This is actually how durable change is built.

Hey, look, it's The Minneapolis Reckoning at Slate! slate.com/news-and-pol...

Police Departments Have Shrunk. Crime Is Plummeting. Now What?slate.com New, surprising data has lessons for all sides of the “defund” debate.

They've shrunk? Well, their budgets are higher than ever. And 2023 was the deadliest cop-on-citizen year on record.

Mmmhmm. Yes, that is noted. Cops aren’t better, it’s just better for us when there are fewer of them and when people are materially investing in alternatives to policing.

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