Jeremy Noel-Tod: Voted in the local elections and can’t shake the feeling of shame and resentment at the photo id requirement. Shame at participating in an evidently cynical attempt to disenfranchise voters under 60 without a valid passport or driving licence. Resentment at the pretence that there was even a problem

Voted in the local elections and can’t shake the feeling of shame and resentment at the photo id requirement. Shame at participating in an evidently cynical attempt to disenfranchise voters under 60 without a valid passport or driving licence. Resentment at the pretence that there was even a problem

Lots of senior related IDs, but I seem to have missed a student ID in the list.

Student IDs are usually issued by schools and colleges, not directly from the government, and so wouldn't usually be accepted for government purposes. Having said that, any student union who are part of the PASS age verification scheme and have the hologram on their ID cards should still be valid.

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Bearing in mind more Tory MPs have been charged with sexual offences than people have been charged with electoral fraud

And if you add financial fraud numbers too, the electoral fraud becomes a statistical irrelevance.

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Only thing I will say about this is that it brings the rest of the UK into line with Northern Ireland, where photo ID has been required since 2002. Though arguably there was a problem here:

Sinn Fein undoubtedly stole votes when it beat SDLP in 2001 election, official believedwww.belfasttelegraph.co.uk Sinn Féin “undoubtedly” stole votes in the 2001 General Election — the first time the party overtook the SDLP — the Northern Ireland Office’s most senior civil servant believed.

Right... But it looks as though NI has something called an Electoral Identity Card which the rest of the UK doesn't? And it's not as though recent governments have generally been driven by the desire for administrative alignment with Belfast.

Northern Ireland has had a form of Voter ID for a long time, but it was all slips and stamps and dedicated cards I believe. It's complicated and there's history to it of course. If I'm not mistaken it was mostly "Prove you live in NI and are over voting age.". Could be mistaken, I vote in ROI.

There is the Voter Authority Certificate, which people can apply for in the rest of the UK if they have no other valid form of ID..?

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My province issues a photo ID card if you do not wish to or cannot drive. It's very easy to get, and very cheap (and free for age 65+). The only reason not to offer this service is deliberate disenfranchisement

There are free Voter Authority Certificates available in the UK too for people who have no other forms of photographic ID available. The government just hasn't told anyone about them. www.gov.uk/apply-for-ph...

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I’m surprised they allow disability based ID in light of their proposed disability reforms.

They need disabled people to be registered, so they know who to come for once the reforms are passed.

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Excellent point. I was confused and thinking they were just stupid. I forgot the devious part

i dont really know how to feel about it, honestly valid ID has been a requirement for voting for a while here, and the rules are actually more strict than what they ask for in this post, but our voter participation is at 82%

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/arti...

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Same. Same. I was probably never going to swing right, but I do think at least it's a reminder every cycle about these bellends and their voter suppression. Long may people remember it.

not sure what to do with all my bubbling fury as keen to avoid a stroke.

Or those over 60 who are unused to having to carry any form of ID or have forgotten to bring it with them.

In Northern Ireland you can get a photographic electoral card that specifically is for voting. I assumed to was a UK wide thing but never thought about it till now

Opps shpuld have read the other comments first, sorry!

In the rest of the UK it's a Voter Authority Certificate, but they aren't very well publicised and most people aren't aware they even exist. www.gov.uk/apply-for-ph...

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Hard to believe the UK doesn't have enough deterent of voting fraud with its so many CCTV cameras

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