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What's new in CMOS 18? Eager to find out! #ACES2024
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In bibliographies, place of publication IS NO LONGER REQUIRED! Copyeditors around the world are rejoicing. #ACES2024
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Title-case capitalization change: Prepositions of 5 letters or more should be capitalized in titles, headlines, etc. #ACES2024
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Another change: If "The" is part of a publication's title, don't drop it (as in CMOS 17). Instead, keep it, capitalize it, italicize it: The New Yorker, The New York Times, The Washington Post. #ACES2024
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But in citations (footnotes, reference lists), it's OK to continue to drop articles (A, The) in publication titles. #ACES2024
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Another biggie, regarding capitalization after a colon: If what follows is a complete sentence, cap it! (I think this is reverting back to CMOS 15 or 16, right?) #ACES2024
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Gotta love the audience questions that cite specific CMOS sections! #ACES2024
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CMOS doing better about embracing singular they/their in formal speech, tho these explanations are still rather dated. #ACES2024
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It's the *italicize* it part that so many writers are skimming over. The "The" popping up in the middle of a sentence all capitalized like that is jarring! #ACES2024
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what about the /Times/? That’s my only style guide exception to this
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Not four? There's been a move lately to not italicize "from" or "with" in title case, I've noticed
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It's very internet style to cap every word in a headline, but it's not CMOS style.
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I always thought it was weird that they considered "concerning" a preposition not to be capitalized.
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I’m changing the spelling of “about” to “abüt”
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Darn. Apologies for being that person, but place of publication is critical to everyone doing place-based research. But will follow you anyway!
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Do researchers search bibliographies by place of pub? I'm curious how this info is used. (We'll still be including publisher name and year of publication.)
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And quite frankly, given how often place of pub is wrong or impossible to find, I wonder how that affects researchers.
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I don't find it difficult, but then I am a librarian in my day job. 🙂
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Usually two seconds on google. It's an issue with anything self-published, small presses, or anything pre-1850 or so. Two reasons - (1) it may be contextually important, (2) if the publisher is obscure it helps enormously if you're trying to track down a copy or learn more about the author.
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Surely I don't have to talk up WorldCat.org? Free database of 1 *billion* items in the libraries of the world? That thing you need to cite probably lives in a library! Who cataloged it with the place of publication! WorldCat will even generate a citation for you in the top citation styles!
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Can only speak for myself; I would. An example of why PoP matters. In the 19th c., there was a children's story called "Ten Little [racist epithet]," published all over the place. Omitting PoP undermines the study of the spread of ideas & influences, in this case racist ones.
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Which is to say, it matters to me, and probably no one else, that a publisher here in Buffalo released an edition of this noxious book around 1900. This'll sound weird, but including PoP is a subtle form of geographic accountability.
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I’m that person too, but I think we’re in a minority here!
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I'm so curious to know how this impacts research. One can still look up where Press X was headquartered in 1948 or whatever—the task is just shifted from copyeditor to researcher. Or is there a broader impact that I'm not seeing? Would truly love to know!
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In my case, I work on the history of a topic which had a lot of literature published in both the US and the UK, but I’m primarily focused on the UK, as well as doing some comparative UK/Aus/NZ history. So it’s really helpful for me to be able to look at a citation and see where it was published
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It’s not a showstopper, as you say, and the geographical context should be clear from the text anyway. When I’ve tried explaining why I find having place in the citations useful, my peers seem uncomprehending, which I in turn find mystifying. So I accept I’m in the minority on this one!
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I appreciate your perspective!
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If you can't cite the place, surely it's just sparkling wine?
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Nooo. We can’t lose Basingstoke!
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