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This is honestly a shocking line of questioning from Ari Shapiro.
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I listened to it, and I'd say it's *possible* that he was being deliberately obtuse because he knew perfectly well what the response would be and wanted to give Simon room to rampage, but it's not at all clear. So yeah, I agree, if he was sincerely asking those questions, he's a jackass.
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I think NPR is actually just like this. They literally have underwriting from AI companies!
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Like others, I just assumed it was Ben Shapiro.