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Ford should be pilloried for eliminating wastewater surveillance. But the notion we aren’t post-pandemic in a meaningful way is nonsense. The very fact that viral counts are as high but excess deaths have dropped almost to zero is a *good* thing. Vaccines work. Flattening the curve worked.
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I’m not denying long Covid but many viruses can have long term effects and countless people suffered from them before and after Covid. We need better air quality and surveillance but pretending nothing has improved is counterproductive.
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People are getting covid multiple times a year, where other viruses with long term impacts like flu are like once a decade. There is still tremendous burden and sickness from covid well beyond just the death chart.
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Do people really think we’re going to eradicate covid like polio? The fact it legit is now a flu, and generally not even a bad one, is a miracle.
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The better analogy is probably a cold—a coronavirus. I’m sure at various points the virus that became the common cold was a deadly pathogen. It’s almost miraculous how quickly vaccines accomplished that here.
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Flu seems like the better analogy to me, given the relative severity, mix of symptoms, and importance of seasonal vaccinations.
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It's actually too soon to say here! We really don't know what long-term immunity following multiple infections is going to look like. I think most kids who have had multiple COVID infections with few severe symptoms and may have antibodies that make it just a cold for them! Or not
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Not discounting vaccination here, BTW, it's clear that they're an amazing breakthrough that–especially for the people who are getting multiple doses–that has perhaps really accelerated this process
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It is exceedingly difficult to eradicate diseases that have other animals as vectors. Smallpox only infected humans so it was (relatively) easy to eradicate: just vaccinate all humans. Since the flu and coronaviruses infect other mammals and birds, vaccine escaping variants can be created
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Even without animal vectors it sounds like it'd be impossible to eradicate. At least one major variant appears to have evolved almost entirely in the body of a single immunocompromised person. We detect countless "cryptic" variants in wastewater surveys. It's with us forever now.
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Yes. Influenza type B contributed to my daughter being stillborn; it's not nothing; but most people who get influenza recover fine.
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That is not how viruses work.
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Even a bad one? Just leaves 1 in 3 infected with permanent damage to one or more major systems isn't bad?
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Nonsense. It is a risk group 3 pathogen like HIV, TB, plague, anthrax, etc. that has severe long term implications.
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That is a very foolish take… all of the deaths from the heart disease, strokes, cancers etc etc that covid continues to contribute to should be counted but aren’t. The data is biased to make you think it’s all good.
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Acute severity does not equal overall risk, which is why it is still listed as a Risk Group 3 pathogen along with things like HIV, plague, and anthrax.
This is a truly foolish take that flies in the face of the ramifications of continuing and multiple infections people are getting. This isn't over by a long shot.
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We just need to keep our boosters up to date, both in taking them, and having them updated as new variants emerge.
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Yeah but my feelings, therefore science is false and rigged. Take that lib!
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