Avram Grumer: So I guess we don't need it anymore.

yeah i don't think i will be trying to reclaim patriotism for the left this 4th of july. the civic religion is a fucking poison and i'm not going to swallow it

you can't look at a country that forces mandatory flag worship on its children and be like "maybe we can use that, though"

go look up civic religion on wikipedia

for good or bad it basically fills the hole we had left after we got rid of monarchs

So I guess we don't need it anymore.

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