Mark Chadbourn: This is a big takeaway. Despite 14 years of ruinous Conservative government, people still didn’t move away from the Right in any significant numbers.

Quick catch-up: 121 seats (with 2 to be declared) is absolutely devastating for the Conservatives. No one will have to take them seriously for a very long time. #UKGE2024 1/3

Fantastic night for both Labour - 412 seats - and the Liberal Democrats - 71 seats. History-making #UKGE2024 2/3

Four Reform seats is four too many. But to be second in so many is particularly worrying. No one should be complacent. #UKGE2024 3/3

A worry that Tories lost mainly because of reform votes, rather than a big increase in labour and Lib Dem votes. We need to be concerned.

This is a big takeaway. Despite 14 years of ruinous Conservative government, people still didn’t move away from the Right in any significant numbers.

That's the problem with Starmer's technocratic pitch - he didn't really challenge the rightwing ideology, but the competence of its implementers.

Also shouldn't be ignored that plenty of young people voted for Reform.

This result from our local secondary school yesterday So many Reform 😬 but otherwise encouraging

I know, from experience, a few of those votes are at least semi jokey.

I really hope so! They had all the local candidates in to speak to them, and the reform guy is a total climate change denier 😬

Oof!

Can you show the stats? I think Labor needs to do a good job. Otherwise the next election might look different Doubt though, as some news are writing, that Farange can take over the Torries

There aren't exact numbers, but Statista estimated 10% of 18-24 year olds: www.statista.com/statistics/1... YouGov suggested a bit lower at 6%: yougov.co.uk/politics/art... Article on it here, too: www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture...

Whatever happened to the centre-right voters? Did Labour pick them up, or they held their noses and voted Tory despite it being far right now, or stayed home?

I expect we’ll get some good academic analysis over the next few days.

Or they voted LibDem. I'm greatly looking forward to the next time Sam Freedman and Ben Ansell pop into my inbox.

Well, Reform say that they are the centre right... They also say that the Conservative party are socialists, so maybe their self-description might be a bit off.

No it isn't. As in 1997 most of the work was done by non-rich Tories staying home. Only way to get turnout up is to offer people something worth voting for. ~half the population has no party representing their interests. Begging for us to lift a finger for them when they refuse to do so for us.

What is the non-represented half of the population looking for in a part, do you think? Asking because I know most people find it hard to agree with everything a single party says, but surely between them they cover most things. What would a party have to say to get the 50% interested?

Actual living wages; genuinely affordable housing; trains that work even when they don't involve London; public transport that works outside London; industries that aren't based in London; education & training; prosecution of wealthy wrongdoers and non-pathetic sanctions when they fuck us over...

... and a properly funded NHS which is not used tio siphon profits to a private sector that parasitises the doctors and nurses we trained. In short, pro-social govt. Not the sociopaths we always get landed with because power.

This is the problem we need to solve: bsky.app/profile/joca...

It's ludicrous but also obvious. Power owns all the platforms. Parties which challenge power will get beaten down by those platforms. Liberals have neither the courage nor the analytical framework to overcome the systemic bias towards fascism. Forever doomed to keep seats warm for it.

Give people something to vote for and they will. news.sky.com/story/ex-lab...

Ex-Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn re-elected as MP after running as independent in Islington Northnews.sky.com Jeremy Corbyn has held on to his north London seat for the 11th time, on this occasion standing as an independent rather than a Labour candidate.

I agree, on many if not all the points. But the way I see it is that labour “could” take us there, but had to get over the first hurdle. Which was getting into govt. and by promising all the things you list, our media owners would never have let them in at all. So, hopefully this is the first step.

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