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Conservatives have been steamrolled in the UK and now France. In the case of France, they DRAMATICALLY under-performed expectations. I honestly think we're seeing the fruits of the far-right overplaying its hand and underestimating how receptive people are to it.
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The French understand that a far-right govt is infinitely worse than even the most disappointing left govt. So they coalesce to keep the Nazis out in a way the U.S. left never does.
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I disagree. Trump under-performed his poll numbers in 2020 and the GOP in general did the same in the midterms in 2022. I think we're seeing an era I'd call the Loud Tory Effect, which is where the far right misinterprets their ability to be heard with their actual popularity.
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I think you're right about that in general. But I think there's a large segment of "the parties are the same" folk in the U.S. that really DON'T think a Trump victory is any worse than a Biden won for anyone except Biden. And they think it's a good idea to "punish" Biden/Dems by not voting
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some really just want him to oppose genocide, Dan
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I hate to break it to but Biden COULD NOT "end it with a phone call" like you all seem to think. And he's done far more than fucking Trump "need to finish the job" ever will. But I get it your purity and self-righteous matter more to you than any damage caused.
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he could call it a genocide and let the ICC do its job. no, he can't "end it with a phone call" but he's not even trying.
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And it’s him not even trying that we’re fucking livid about.
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Be as mad as you want. But don't pretend that not voting for him and a Trump presidency will be in any way anything but much, much worse for Gaza. And don't ignore the full ramifications and damage such a course will cause to other marginalized groups. You don't have any GOOD options
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then be prepared to apologize to a hell of a lot of people
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Over 70% percent of Gaza is flattened and the entire population is displaced. Somehow this will be worse under Trump. Don't ask me how just vibes.
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I mean what do YOU think Trump means when he says Bibi has to "finish the job?" Not to mention his waxing openly about "glassing" it. And you all do so LOVE to ignore the damage that Trump will do to any other marginalized group. Just not important enough to concern you I guess.
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And when Biden loses, the blame will be entirely on the democrats who were warned over and over and over again about the problems with his candidacy, and ran him anyway. I understand a Trump presidency is going to be awful. The Democrats are the ones who clearly don’t understand.
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That is the reason leftists are pissed. We understand the danger. And we are powerless to fix anything because of a rigged two party system who has given us the two worst choices one can imagine this year. Be angry at that. Not people pointing out why this is shit.
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This is a dilemma I often discuss with anti-vaxxers. They have this philosophy that the choice NOT to do something (in this case, not vaccinating) absolves them of the responsibility of the consequences of not doing it. If your kid gets measles and gives it to a preg woman... it's your fault.