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Google’s generative AI gets “can cats be vegan” right at first…. but THEN decides to throw in a completely wrong opposing opinion, which some people who REALLY want a vegan cat will absolutely cling to.
another awful side effect of Google deciding to become useless: really really dangerous pet care advice
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I do think that this is somewhat deeper than a genAI problem, and a situation where there really is a misinformation campaign on the vegan side and it's not adequately matched by good information. Google's old algorithms would also fail.
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“Reported” doing a lot of heavy lifting there
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Cats are obligate carnivores. Period. You feed them a vegan diet, you kill them.
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You can design a vegan diet for a cat that can meet their health needs, but it's both somewhat complicated & will have some inherent platability challenges, so the question really becomes: What's the point?
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Even a vegan like Hannah Shaw, aka The Kitten Lady, is outspoken about cats' need to eat meat. There is zero point except being a self-righteous jerk to trying to get them to eat plants.
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"Owners who fed their pet a plant-based diet reported fewer visits to the vet and less medication use" In other words, nuts who don't feed their cats a suitable diet also don't take them in for proper medical care. Turns out that Christian Scientists report fewer doctor visits too I bet!
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“Every time I take Peter Singer to the mean old vet for the diarrhea and weight loss and listlessness, they give me shit like ‘oh he’s starving, look he’s blind now.’ I don’t need that negativity!”
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every time i've replicated a stupid google AI response, the SEO problem is right under the surface. "is raw milk good for immunity" gave me a bad answer... summarized from the first search result, a pro-raw-milk site, which i also got with AI turned off
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Yeah - like, that's what's kind of strange to me: Google's big AI push does not seem like an attempt to synthesize an enormous pool of training data, it seems like it's just "Generate a summary of the top three results"
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yeah, i've found myself just scrolling down to the first link while the AI loads. the "show an excerpt from the first link" response is usually faster and more concise writing
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a big part of the problem now though is that the summaries have the implicit imprimatur of Google because they are not only supposed to be fancy, AI-generated answers but they are right there at the top of the results page in the same font as the rest of the official Google stuff.
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even people casually attuned to the wisdom that internet search results are unreliable might not immediately grok that Google would make obviously bad information so prominent and official-looking
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bsky.app/profile/drea...
Five years ago, the top results for this question would have been from Quora and its ilk - chock full of uninformed idiots "answering" questions for clout or whatever; training an LLM on reams of that garbage just cuts out the middleman.
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My sister in law tried to make their dog vegan (for vegan rep reasons) and eventually had to give it up because the dog did not thrive.
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Dogs can get by as vegans if the owner is competent but cats just straight up die.
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But the dog will be sad and confused about why you’re abusing it.
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Cats can be vegan for five minutes before they say “what the fuck you trying to serve me here?”
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We give our vegan cats Red Bull for that Taurine deficiency. ::ducks::
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When I panic-rushed my cat to the vet with gasto issues, the first thing the vet asked was if I was feeding her a vegan diet. This vet literally just lost a patient who's owner tried to do this. My kitty just had the cat version of stomach flu. She is fine.
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The internet is basically made of bad advice and it seems inevitable that any AI trained on it will reflect that.
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Every time I hear people say they're feeding their cats a vegan diet, my instinct is to want to go at them, because they're killing their pets. I lost a friend once because I just screamed at them for ten straight minutes about how they're abusing their cat by forcing them on a bullshit vegan diet.
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Dashiell loved frozen broccoli 🥦 but there was no way I would ever feed him just that.
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Best thing I've done in a while is my switch from Chrome to Vivaldi and locking out the AI part of searches. Seeing misinformation like that every day would break my spirit.
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Cats are ruthless optimized killing machines that happen to look fluffy and cute.
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Oh no THey taught the google drone to play the "Lets consult both sides" talkshow card Its even more ruined than previously thought