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One problem with running on "look at how bad project 2025 is!" is that it is the culmination of 50 years of republican actions, single-mindedly dedicated to it. Republicans spent the last 50 years trying to do every single bullet-point in it, repeatedly.
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Republicans would attempt one bullet point, and if it failed they didn't give a fuck. They'd try again next week, next month, next year. For 50 years.
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Ask anyone marginalized, and they'll point to how for *them* a hell of a lot of project 2025 has already happened to them. That very scary bullet point you want to point out? It's already been a reality for a generation, for some people.
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That's what happens when you have one party spending 50 years single-mindedly trying to enact legislation over and over and over and over again. It gets passed. Doesn't affect everyone, though, just the people whose politicians didn't think they were important.
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In those 50 years of republicans' single-minded dedication to passing this legislation in any way possible, accepting the smallest wins as proof this dedication works, democrats have not *once* had a similar motivating force. 50 years of dedicated effort on one side, j/o gestures on the other.
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Democrats had those same 50 years to be relentlessly dedicated to their own goals, to single-mindedly try to pass their own legislation, to accept even the smallest wins as validation and proof that they just need to keep pushing and eventually they'll get what they want. They didn't.
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The result is that now, at the end of that 50 year process of laser-like dedication on the republican side, a *hell* of a lot of people the democrats would like to scare with project 2025 have already spent their entire lives living with the damned thing.
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Now, when this 50 year process has resulted in a 900 page long carefully presented list of specific actions, the question really is: Where is the 900 page list of specific concrete actions the democrats want to take to oppose that list? Where is the proof they are willing to be as relentless?
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Again: a whole fucking lot of people, the most vulnerable people in society, know for damned sure there is no such list, there is no such dedication. They spent their entire lives living with some form of the republicans' list, though.
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Basically: the *best* way to counter project 2025 would be to not have spent the last 50 years fucking about. The second best way would be to present literally any indication they have begun to stop fucking about with people's lives, and be just as dedicated to basically *anything*
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Thank you, as a non U.S citizen, this list/agenda has confused me, cos its what's been happening already just codified maybe, but that's what all Christian Conservatives have always wanted and always will
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This is the thing that gets me- like, what is the plan here? How are we going to harden the target? Or is it just “win every election forever”?
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There are several States Attorneys General doing just that - to Counteract Project 2025 ... it's just being done "Off the Radar" ...
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Liberals led themselves to believe that human progress always marches forward, no matter what, and that they are the stewards of that progress. Since they believe progress happens no matter who wins, winning hardly matters to them. They think they are highest achievable ideal, so they don't change.
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This whole thread is spot on. I want to expand this part a bit. What’s happened for my entire life (~50 years) is the progressive Dems go “let’s do X” (health care, climate change, labor rights, etc) and centrist Dems leap to run interference for the GOP with cries of “but socialism!” Lather etc