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somewhere @kenwhite.bsky.social just shuddered involuntarily
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It's technically correct -- the best kind of correct! Just tell me she didn't mention screaming theater in an empty firehouse.
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You'll never guess what the top comment is.
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I definitely did... What horrible framing of a point that was otherwise basically reasonable.
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it's not wrong. The exceptions are very carefully circumscribed but the 1A does not protect fraud, true threats etc.
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yeah, it’s an objectively true statement it is just a commonly used trope used to argue a number of restrictions on speech, whether constitutional or not. Ken has written on this a lot
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And as has been noted at length by others, the existence of given restrictions on speech is not an open license to add new ones.
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oh, is that what that judge is trying to do? Yeah that's bad.
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I have no idea what the judge is trying to do; I was just noting the many cliches that arise in discourse whenever someone says "free speech is not absolute". I am *hopeful* that the judge invokes only the existing, well-established, narrowly-defined limits on speech in these specific circumstances.
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Sounds like she’s basically doing ok though!
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In fairness, the defendant's entire argument in the case seems to be that his 1A rights are absolute and cover conspiracy and true threats equally well.
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BRB - gonna go commit insider trading as an exercise of free speech.
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well you can't shout "fire!" in a crowded theatre.
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But only on like the opening weekend of Barbenheimmer, when it's really crowded.
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the problem with that one is someone might hear fire and launch their davy crockett in the theatre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)
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Well, that's protected by the 2nd amendment, so we have to allow it.
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we just need to downsize it so we can get a concealed carry version.
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This phrase was coined specifically to argue that the government has a right to crush anti-war dissent. https://www.popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackneyed-apologia-for-censorship-are-enough/
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I've learned that no matter how obvious you may think it is that you're deliberately repeating an invalid argument to an audience that knows it's invalid, to mock the inevitability of someone raising that argument seriously, it's not clear you're doing so to people who don't know you.
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it's very fucking funny though. especially on a popehat tagged post.