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Honest answer: we don’t fucking know. The discarding of Chevron, coupled with the determination a rule may be challenged from the moment of harm and not from the moment the rule was made, throws more or less the entirety of administrative law - the basis of a regulatory system - into flux.
Honest question, how does what the SCOTUS is doing affect those teaching and learning in law school today?
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Like, when I say the impact of the last week of rulings can’t be understated, I mean it because Chevron was like…a foundational thing for administrative law for the last four decades.
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Add into that the determination that we can’t prosecute a president who commits a crime if it’s an official act, coupled with the absolute lack of definition as to what constitutes an official act, and we have no fucking clue.
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Also, little pissed the reasoning for the latter was “We don’t want a president to be concerned about criminal culpability because it may stop them from acting!” and I mean, actually, yes, I want our executive to be considering whether they’re breaking the fucking law before acting.
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It’s like “The President is responsible for the execution and enforcement of the laws, so if he has to break a few of those laws to do so, you know, sometimes you gotta kill the patient to cure the disease.”
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And with all respect to my friends in the military and who have served in the military but “The military won’t obey an illegal order” is not comforting because I have met a number of members of our military who absolutely fucking will.
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Like, I know a lot of good servicemembers who will balk at plainly illegal and immoral orders. But I also know some guys who completely made me understand how that whole “just following orders” thing got started
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Yep. The people who were surprised by the "just following orders" thing always confused me. You have a rigid hierarchy and severe punishment for not following orders, so ... shouldn't it be assumed that many people will follow even horrific, illegal orders?
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The illegality of the order also often gets more diffuse the further you go down the chain of command. The individual who carries out a task may not have any meaningful sense of how that and a hundred other mundane, logistical acts come together to constitute a high crime.
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Yep. "Post this flyer telling [X] to report to [location] and [time]" is pretty hard to say is an illegal order, but as a result ...