@farqfox.bsky.social: Who is polling better than Biden there? Is the lead substantial enough to fend off the onslaught of attacks and voter turn-off that comes when a politician actually seeks office?

What's really disturbing about the debate fiasco is there's no way to be confident that Biden has it in him to pull off the near-flawless execution he'll need to win at this point. At a minimum, the Bidens owe us a real conversation about that. My take: newrepublic.com/article/1832...

What Joe Biden Really Owes the Country Right Nownewrepublic.com There's no sugar-coating the debate, which was a disaster. At a minimum, he and Jill owe the country an honest conversation about whether he can still do this.

CNN let down the country with their awful debate format. The no-fact-checking ended up making Trump's endless lies sound plausible. Two things can be true: This was a total disaster from a journalistic point of view, and Biden blew a big opportunity. newrepublic.com/article/1832...

Unlike many others On Here, I don't think there's a way for Biden to bow out without it leading to extreme risks of a very different kind. We need more of an acknowledgment from the replace-Biden camp that this is not a remotely easy dilemma. newrepublic.com/article/1832...

Acknowledged. Now the “this can never happen” crowd needs to accept that replacing him is less perilous than keeping him.

Deeply stupid to pretend an imaginary candidate can parachute in to lead the party better the actual leader of the party, who besides Israel policy has seen virtually no dissension within his caucus for 4 years

Not as stupid as sticking with someone people won’t vote for.

Your alternative is to switch to someone fewer people will vote for

State level polling of senate races in PA, WI, and AZ says otherwise.

Who is polling better than Biden there? Is the lead substantial enough to fend off the onslaught of attacks and voter turn-off that comes when a politician actually seeks office?

Baldwin is +7 in WI Rosen is +5 in NV Gallego is +1 in AZ Slotkin is +4 in MI Casey is +6 in PA RCP Average has Biden: -0.6 in WI -5.0 in NV -6.2 in AZ -1.2 in MI -3.0 in PA It’s Biden, not Democrats.

Those aren’t presidential polls. Who is polling ahead of Biden in those states for president Dave?

I said “state level polling of senate races.” These are all candidates running full blown campaigns, against real opponents, in real conditions. And they’re all out performing Biden.

Senate races are fundamentally different than a presidential race. They are good indicators that the polling on Biden is measuring something different than eventual voting behavior, but they don’t provide evidence that there’s another candidate available to perform better

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