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There are two elements to the immunity decision that are particularly extreme in a way that many will miss: (1) motive is irrelevant and (2) immune acts are not just excluded from prosecution, they’re excluded from evidence. /1
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/2 Motive being irrelevant means that the President can do a thing for expressly lawless reasons so long as the thing is within the extremely broad range of official acts. So question isn’t “can the President conspire to defraud,” it’s “can the President call a state official about an election.”
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/3 The problem is that almost anything can be shoehorned into an official act depending on how you characterize it or the level of generality you use. The Court’s “well of course a President has to use due care that election laws are enforced” hints at this.
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/4 More powerful, to a trial lawyer, is the prohibition on the use of immune acts as evidence. In almost every other context (save Speech & Debate), you can use things as evidence when you can’t prosecute for them. If I say “this man must die,” that’s usually protected by the First Amendment ….
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/5 …but it’s obvious that my statement can be introduced as evidence if I’m accused of murder. Contrast this type of Presidential immunity. Say Donald Trump, days into his second term, meets with the Department of Justice and demands a way to deport all Muslims, reviling them as subhuman.
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/6 Later Trump orders a staff member at Mar-A-Lago to kill a Muslim employee, possibly by serving him the food. Under the Court’s rule, even assuming that ordering Mar-A-Lago to kill people is unofficial conduct (not 100% clear), Trump’s anti-Muslim tirade to the AG would be inadmissible at trial.
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What about pardon? It’s an official act. Couldn’t he do literally anything and pardon himself without that being a new constitutional question?
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He can’t pardon himself from a state crime.
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Until the Supreme Court says he can. It’s really hard to overstate how this decision basically says the idea of a nation of “laws, not men” was never intended even as an apirational goal, once there was enough concentration of power to stop pretending otherwise.
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How long until a new federalist paper is discovered that establishes federalism isn’t a thing?
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But if it's an official act he does not need to pardon himself because he cannot be prosecuted under federal or state law.
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In like 30 states he can lean on the governor to do so.
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Yet. the six judges might decide differently. Presidential immunity could take precedent over everything.
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Does this definitively settle the “can you sell a pardon” question?
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Does doing something "interstate" make it federal, or does that just add another layer of crime on top?
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Feels like any statement like this will now be followed by "... can he?"