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One of the things that folks keep missing in the 14AS3 stuff is that *the entire point of 14AS3* is that it is both permitted and necessary for the health of ordinary democracy that those who try to overthrow it by force are excluded from it.
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14AS3 doesn't say Trump gets excluded from the ballot because he's a terrible person, or has terrible policies, or has shitty opinions about things. It says he's excluded from the ballot *because he tried an insurrection*. He tried to usurp the power of government by force after losing the election
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If Trump had, after losing the election, just not done an insurrection, and instead left office normally on Jan 20, nobody would be having a conversation about 14AS3, and he would be plainly eligible to run for office again. Like, it's not actually all that hard a concept to wrap your head around.
One would think. Anyway, thank you for splashing sense all over this platform today sir.
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Maybe then we would be pushing the document case harder? But I don't think that would fit in 14a.
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I don't think the FL/documents case gets you anywhere close to "insurrection". Jan6 gets you there. Mishandling classified documents doesn't.
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Agreed. Unless you sold them to a foreign agent - then more treason than insurrection. But, I was thinking more along the lines of felony conviction and how that might impact eligibility. I'm not a lawyer - but my understanding is that it does NOT keep you off federally.
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It's inconceivable that he did NOT sell or give them to a foreign agent. But since we were not formally at war, that probably wouldn't reach the very high bar of treason as defined by the Constitution. Espionage, though...
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No, not at all. But the FL/docs case gets you close to "Trump in prison" which is a perfectly fine thing. And there's precedent for running for president from prison - Eugene Debs, convicted of preaching Socialism, and Lyndon LaRouche, convicted of misusing the credit cards of donors.