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anyway, my main take on sex pistols: boy band or no? is that you have to come up with a consistent set of criteria that a group meets to be considered a boy band, and the pistols were so inconsistent that it’s impossible to see how you could apply it to the without applying it to basically everyone
the long and short of this is that “boy band” is inaccurate unless you’re classifying most bands before the mid-80s as boy bands or girls groups, and that malcolm mclaren, vivienne westwood and each individual member of the pistols all had entirely different motivations for being involved
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fwiw, my criteria is: 1. plays music written by producers/managers/label 2. public/personal life largely controlled by label (this one is subjective, i know, but important) 3. are part of a marketing strategy to sell items other than music the pistols only meet 1/3 here
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I think this is good for boyband as music industry device. It might not work for, say, boyband as aesthetic.
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i think these are two different things!
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That’s valid. I can appreciate focusing on the industry device side. Though I’d love to hear your thoughts on the aesthetics side eventually.
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lol now you’re getting me wanting to analyze the labor issues of pop idoldom lol