The Satanic Temple is actually really bad at "their thing." They lose the majority of their cases and their primary attorney has been repeatedly sanctioned. They're 1A grifters.
If you actually care about 1st Amendment protections you should be supporting groups like FFRF or the ACLU instead
The ACLU really sucks too. But then again I'm just about the opposite of a free speech absolutist. I don't care if the Klan has the right to do a damn thing
Yeah I used to be a free speech absolutist, but then I started hearing people like Sargon of Akkad, Nick Fuentes, Alex Jones, and Steven Crowder.
These are malignant forces on society that are just mouthpieces for the wealthy. Their speech is literal garbage air.
To even refer to Carl Benjamin as "Sargon of Akkad" is an insult to the actual Sargon of Akkad...
But yeah these guys are scum. I remember when my former friend used to try to push me down the YouTube skeptic rabbithole...and eventually I got sick of his shit.
there he is! The guy women want and men want to be....The pinnacle of manliness.
The man that has made a career only reading headlines and even then only glancing slightly.
you will immediately lose any respect that I would have had for you if you bring up any argument from them. Generally they just talk about vibes and their whole belief structure that gives them so much smugness is based on the fact that western society colonized everything, especially inventions
Finer words could not have been spoken about those asshole grifters. I spent an entire year debunking their bullshit to my former friend in 2017 and he still ate up the grift.
I'd go into more detail about who this guy is, but it is complicated; Lets just say he's one of DeviantArt's most infamous.
True FFRF is key. ACLU is also pretty damn good.
I honestly like the flashiness that Satanic Temple uses, but when it comes down to doing the work I trust FFRF.
They're fine for doing the occasional attention grabbing malicious compliance style stunt, but they're terrible at the actual nitty-gritty of winning in court.
And this is broadly my point. The money we have to give to advocacy groups is limited. Stop spending it on the splashy group who manages to get angry news articles printed, give it to the people who can get things done.
The Satanic Temple regularly gets sanctioned in court, because they’re utterly incompetent buffoons. In Belle Plaine for example, the city acquiesced to threats and gave neutral treatment, and ST sued anyway, lost, then tried to sue again and got sanctioned for it.
And what also bugs me is that they go out of their way to set up the grounds for these cases from the bottom up and then still lose them. People like FFRF take actual cases, not manufactured controversies.
Yes. That ACLU. If you're more focused on the establishment and exercise clauses you should donate to FFRF. If you're concerned with First Amendment issues generally you should donate to the ACLU.
Church of Satan doesn't do any freedom of religion advocacy that I'm aware of. Satanic Temple gets their name in the paper a lot, but they're actually pretty bad at carrying through on the hard work and getting laws changed.
