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How have we not settled this?
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Masks work when used properly. What the previous studies actually showed was that masks don’t work when not used properly (eg wearing s mask under your nose…).
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This is the hard part. The article suggests what you really need is something 99% of the general public doesn't have -- fit-tested N95s or full face respirators.
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Did we read the same article? It makes no mention of that at all. Literal quote: "Non-RCT evidence also shows that masks work and respirators work better."
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Yes, I’m with Robert here Even medical or cloth masks, widely applied, can have huge population level effects (I note that I said this about a year ago to Isaac Bogoch on twitter and was rewarded with yet another Toronto star editorial about what a jerk I am)
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Masks work Better masks (that is, respirators with a seal) work better Masks work best when everyone uses them
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Didn’t we kill an entire line of flu virus by wearing garbage masks? I was wearing home made ones at that point. Now I have an elastomeric one which I prefer for comfort reasons.
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2 years? Lord this has been a strange trip
I am sorry you had to endure that 🐴💩.... you were correct early in this mess, many times.
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It’s like the first years of living with brain injury. Nonstop changes. People acting weird to avoid admitting it’s happening. Completely surreal.
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Oh, for Pete’s sake 😖 FWIW, I truly appreciate your work 👍🏼❤️
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I especially loved how one way masking was supposed to be sufficient for the immunocompromised yet magically wouldn’t translate to a “population level”.
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The real argument is people don’t want to wear them. Instead of wasting energy arguing they don’t work, they should argue for the tools that would ⬇️ their need. Maybe then we could all live happily ever after.
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Yes. Each measure of proper use though diminishes the probability of transmission. Everyone in congregate settings>a few alone> etc. It’s terribly unfortunate that this, along with vaccines & anti-science, has been politicized & made part of the culture wars.
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And, honestly, if we can drive cars we can learn to properly wear a mask. Sheesh
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I have a respirator that I bought and used for my yarn dyeing work. It's easy to use, although bulky and not very comfortable. Keeping an N95 properly on my face was actually a lot harder -- that's why I bought the respirator.
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I agree with you but suggest using a better metaphor given 1.35 million people die from car crashes every year...
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"A review of masks and respirators, that looked only at clinical trials, concluded that there was not enough evidence to assess whether mask wearing reduces the risk of spreading or contracting respiratory diseases. However, we disagree with that."
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The full statistical analysis of this study will soon be published in the respected medical journal "Duh!".
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I don't understand this debate at all. Did they think doctors/nurses wore masks for years just for fun? Do they just cough in people's faces?
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It's a good point - maybe the politicians trying to have masks banned should be asked if that ban would extend to all doctors and nurses? How would they answer this?
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I have no idea. Masks were a thing long before covid. I remember going to walk-in clinic for a cold like 10 years ago, and they made me wear one cause I was coughing. No one complained or anything. It was just logical.
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The messed up thing is that now I see far fewer masks in health care settings around here since 2020. It's really made me question a lot of people I previously respected
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So many nurses watching Fox or whatever. It's fucking terrifying.
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Even the nurses in the infusion clinics where they give chemo, and one of them told me she thought she didn't need any more shots, as well, wasn't getting the latest Covid vaccine 🤷‍♀️ they've gotten to the healthcare workers and doctors we used to respect. Because it comes from the top.
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Sure, but those are a different kind of mask. Surgical masks doctors wear protect against fomite/droplet transmission, not aerosols. They're better than nothing, but N95/KF94 are necessary. The mask disinformation is to undercut employer/government liability for death, disability & chronic illness.
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They also don't have to provide their employees with N95s so convinced them that a surgical mask was enough, if you HAVE to wear a mask. Saved themselves a ton of money!!!
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Anyway, I think being cheap and not wanting to supply them in the first place also plays a part in this mess.
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Filed under "I shouted I TOLD YOU SO at the guy from work but he couldn't hear me through the glass of the isolation ward where he died the next day"
Of course they do! Only anti vax, anti science , right wing extremists who have hijacked some peoples minds say they don’t.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s brain worm would like a word… 😏
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Still wear mine. COVID never went away and it's nice to also not catch flu and colds as often.
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If I were the editor, this would've been the headline: "DUH."
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On the plane home from Chicago on Southwest, 3 of us maskers chose to sit next to each other. It’s how we protect each other
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I don't leave home without one
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I'm novid too & have lung cancer
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Bravo to you and your colleagues!
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The pandemic, for me, has been the “great colleague upgrade”
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Values tend to outlive political posturing. Always a silver lining. Much love to you and yours.
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can you convince my congressmen of this? they keep trying to ban them in my state and they dont care how many times i call
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Awesome author list. What Cochrane should have been. Once again, thank you from those of us still fighting to preserve our health.