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The number of people who have replied to either argue or bemoan that “MAGA doesn’t care” like that’s the voting bloc we have to mobilize is going to make my brain melt out my ears like taffy on a warm summer’s day
“They want to eliminate national parks” is a very simple way to get just about anyone on the Stop Project 2025 train. Are there much more glaring and life-threatening goals of P25? Yes but even your most bigoted cousin does not want to see the parks system sold for parts.
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Absolutely fucking mind boggling how the left thinks the only way towards progress (and not just politics but also social (like, say, fighting racism)) is only achieved hy appealing to monsters and getting them to come around to our side.
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There are a lot of people who don’t know the correct answer to “do you want to be right or do you want to win.”
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Also like, a lot of them DO care! That’s the whole point! Online chud MAGAs are pretty rare! Project 2025 is insane even to regular conservative-voting people, and plausible because of the court term.
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I think you underestimate the size of the evangelical community that widely supports project 2025.
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I thought Amanda was agreeing with you and the thing we all agree on is that voluntarily casting our opposition as an insurmountable monolith of awful is self-defeating.
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I thought we also care about factual accuracy.
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Even Evangelical support has limits. That's a big part of why Roy Moore lost. (Whether they hit that point *before* a guy gets banned from the mall for creeping on underage girls is... less certain.)
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Project 2025 is a creation of Evangelicals and it's the core mission of the evangelical right. It's what major evangelical organizations have been building towards for decades. It's not fringe. (I just fact checked a whole book a out this.)
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I completely agree about it not being fringe, but at the same time I think (though obviously we'll find out in November and I am going to work my ass off regardless) that the rank and file are not on board with some parts of it.
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And by that I mostly mean that even evangelicals (as in the individual members of the community) don't actually want condoms and birth control banned and the national parks sold off.
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I definitely don't think this is true.
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I also do not think this is true. I also think a lot of evangelicals will line up for whatever their pastors or favorite evangelical influencers tell them is correct. That tends to be how evangelicalism works.
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Evangelical Christianity doesn't work as well if there's a lot of critical, individual thought going on rather than the intoxication of the crowd and a sense of righteousness against the world.
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Well, it's not gonna change what I do (because I got a job in politics so that I could sublimate my anxiety into work) but in November I look forward to telling you that you were right after we win anyway.
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All I am saying is I think you underestimate the Christian right. I'm not saying to give up or change! And I very much hope we win!