John Rogers: Tossing it out there: any recommendations for good books or websites (or videos, I suppose) for non-alcoholic cocktails? I would like to be able to whip something up for patio guests rather than chucking a LaCroix at them all the time. Thanks!

Tossing it out there: any recommendations for good books or websites (or videos, I suppose) for non-alcoholic cocktails? I would like to be able to whip something up for patio guests rather than chucking a LaCroix at them all the time. Thanks!

I'll add "and your non-alcoholic beer that's not a goddam IPA I mean they were a plague on the industry even with alcohol content but NOW?" recommendation also, please.

It's hard to beat Guinness 0.0, in my opinion. Flavor is very good, and the nitro canister does enough to confuse you into not noticing the thinness as much as with most NA beers.

If you like stout, there's a company called Big Drop Brewing that makes an alcohol free milk stout that's delicious, and has a more robust body. Doom Bar does a nice amber ale as well

Athletic makes a bunch of good ones.

I will say Athletic has been the standout for me, but the Bitburger 0.0 is pretty damn great.

Yeah that one is good too. Also there’s this company that makes bottled fake Negronis (they’re called Phony Negronis) that are excellent. The one that’s mezcal flavored is truly incredible. But they’re pricey.

Club Casamara makes pretty nice “amaro inspired” sodas but they too are pricey. But rather delicious!

Yum I’ll try it

Athletic does a great line in dark beers but they don’t make them year round. Their Emerald Cliffs, Irish Red and Dark n Gourdy are all very good. Best Day Brewing’s NA Kolsch is my favorite non-dark NA. And Guinness 0.0 is as close as you can get (the mouthfeel of any NA is always thin to me tho)

Yeah the Guinness is excellent

Non-alcoholic beer has gotten leaps and bounds better in the last few years. It's to the point where I bring a 6 pack thinking me and a couple friends who don't drink either will split it, and we end up with one apiece because a few people who do drink sometimes also want one.

Athletic Brewing makes a good Mexican-style cerveza, Best Day Brewing makes a really nice Kolsch and Belgian-style wheat, and Clausthaler makes a terrific n/a lager. I was an IPA-hater too but I’ve been surprised by the n/a ones, specifically Brew Dog’s Hazy AF, which is very juicy and I really dig.

Clausthaler dry hopped is a favorite among my family.

If that’s what they call Clausthaler Extra Herb* in America: YES. Best unleaded beer ever. None of the excessive malty sweetness too many have. It’s my go-to during this JuNO! (like Drynuary, but in June). * Sorry, stoners. “Herb” is just German for “(pleasantly) bitter”.

Depends on where you're at Alesmith (San Diego) does a NA Speedway Stout that's a damn good attempt at an Imperial Stout, and this brand is a great base for cocktails. The Tequila in particular impressed the hell out of me.

Another plus-one for Athletic, and also Suntory All-Free, which instead of trying to make beer bat with no alcohol just attempts, successfully to me, to make a beer-flavored soda pop that’ll hold a foamy head. Makes a killer Michelada.

Believe it or not, the Guinness Zero is pretty good

Athletic Brewing Company "Ripe Pursuit" (non-alcoholic lemon radler)

this just arrived here & it’s so good

Tilted Shed started making alcohol-removed cider recently and I think it's delicious. vinoshipper.com/shop/tilted_...

2023 (2 x 12 oz. cans) Ellie’s Non-Alcoholic Gravenstein Cidervinoshipper.com So good, you won’t miss the alcohol! We started with naturally fermented Gravenstein cider, gently removed the alcohol with state-of-the-art spinning cone vacuum distillation, and added a touch of Wic...

THANK YOU. I’ve been looking for a good N/A cider.

Athletic is definitely my go-to! Their dark beer is good and I find their IPAs super drinkable. Busty Lush has had my other favorite NA dark beer. I tried Deschutes' NA Black Butte the other day and for me it suffered from comparison to the standard version, but ymmv!

I did like Black Butte when I was drinking, I’ll have to hunt down that NA version.

It may be a boring option but the Corona Non-Alcoholic is astoundingly like the regular beer and also quite low calorie

Untitled Art out of Milwaukee has some good ones. Sadly their orange peel wit is currently out of season :(

Knew I liked you

We are right-thinking men.

Ironically, there are a few "hop waters" available (at least in Chicago) that are pretty good! Usually with a fruit flavor over the ops, like a fruity seltzer with a bitter kick.

I find O’Douls Amber to be palatable, FWIW

Erdinger is the best non-alcoholic lager I've tried.

Deschutes makes a couple of good NAs: Black Butte Porter and Fresh Squeezed IPA.

N/A beers I prefer: Athletic Brewing golden, Bravus gose if available. Some of the radlers.

I had a Pickleball pilsner non-alcoholic beer this week. Pretty good! Would have again.

I don’t know if it’s available outside the Midwest, but Untitled Art has an NA Italian Pilsner that is really fantastic.

Guinness 0.0 is one of the best non-alcoholic beers I’ve tried.

I have a non drinking friend who prefers Goya Malta as a beer replacement to non-alcoholic beer.

Best Day Brewing West Coast IPA. Hands down the best NA beer I’ve had. Tastes like beer. I’ve fooled a few (arguably non beer drinker) people into thinking it was beer.

They make a Kolsch, too. The West Coast one isn’t too IPA-y.

Probably not available near you but I really like Slovak beer Zlaty Bazant. Google tells me it is distributed in USA as Golden Pheasant. Alcohol limit for driving is 0, so creates a market for zero alcohol beer

Is there a non-alcoholic drinks store near you? We have them in Brooklyn so I can’t imagine LA would be far behind.

LA has two Boisson locations. They also ship. And while I’m here replying to strangers: “Good Drinks” is book of mocktail recipes, most of which require some planning. thezeroproof.com is an online n.a. beverage retailer.

Non-Alcoholic Beverage Shop | The Zero Proofthezeroproof.com The Zero Proof is the leading non-alcoholic beverage online store with over 30+ brands to savor. Browse The Zero Proof site and find your new favorite today!

been making a ton of these lately newengland.com/food/beverag...

Raspberry Lime Rickey Recipenewengland.com The Raspberry Lime Rickey is fruity and fizzy with a signature hint of lime, perfect for cooling off in New England's summer months.

I am intrigued!

Rickeys, as a class, are delightful with alcohol or without. Generally, you find all the recipes with gin or rum; just delete that and add a bit more juice for it. Watermelon lime rickeys are fantastic.

And for what it’s worth I love these: punchdrink.com/articles/bit...

Chinotto, Crodino and Other Italian Nonalcoholic Aperitivo Sodas | PUNCHpunchdrink.com The nonalcoholic aperitivo soda—Chinotto, Crodino and more—has found new life stateside. Here are our favorites, from Stappi to Sanbittèr.

What did you write a book or something?

Just tryina keep up out here….

Jinx Adam. I also said Italian bitter sodas

The bitter profile is really where the NA stuff shines. You can, believe it or not, make a totally acceptable NA martini from the citrusy Seedlip, something like the Roots Divino vermouth analogue, two drops of olive oil, and then lemon peel, olive, and an onion.

100%. Giffard makes some excellent n/an options that gets mouthfeel right: Aperitif Sirop (which lands between Campari and Aperol) a pineapple liqueur, and a ginger liqueur.

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