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I've been seeing people saying that because JK Rowling routinely uses UK libel law to silence critics, Gaiman's failure to immediately do so shows his guilt. That's incorrect, and I think it's worth talking about why - it goes to important facets of defamation law abuse. 🧵⚖️
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At the outset, I want to make it clear that I think the allegations against Gaiman are serious, credible, and very disturbing. Nothing in this thread should be taken as suggesting that I think otherwise. I'm purely highlighting some points about what defamation law can/can't do.
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It's rarely advisable for someone in Gaiman's position to bring a defamation action - because he, *unlike JKR*, is in a position where protecting his reputation matters. Because the thing about defamation cases is that filing one is very unlikely to do anything significant to help your reputation.
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If he didn't say the stuff attributed to him, he needs to have said so yesterday, regardless of whether he's going to file for defamation. Come on now
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This is more an @oceanbound.bsky.social area than a legal one. You want first crack, Ana?
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From a tactical stand point…you wouldn’t. The problem with just piping up with “I didn’t say that” is that it won’t actually substantively change anyone’s mind…but it can turn more people against you for looking too defensive. It is also hard to prove a negative in this case.
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Now if you are building a legal case behind the scenes it is also when a crisis Comms person would advise you just lay low and stay quiet, so you don’t accidentally make shit worse.
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And the lawyers would be in the crisis comms person's debt. That said, if there was ever any relationship of any kind ever, this is highly unlikely to be a case you want to bring. At all. And legal would appreciate crisis comms' help conveying that to the client. ;)
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Defamation is a red herring. It's only the reason why the podcast wouldn't make the quotes up. The podcast has him admitting career destroying things. I'm pretty sure you would want to put out a strongly worded statement that you didn't admit to that stuff if you didn't actually do so
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Jeff. The thing you think is obvious and intuitive is not something that professionals who make their living working in this area think is obvious and intuitive.
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That's just an appeal to authority. I have no idea who that person even is! What you had her talking about wasn't even the issue anyway. It wasn't that he admitted to a relationship with her. He admitted to specific sexual acts that will end his career. if he didn't, he has to say so!
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I told you: She's a professional crisis communications specialist. I've worked with her in a situation requiring both legal and crisis comms before. She's a genuine expert. You want to handwave that as "appeal to authority" and claim your vibes are just as good, go for it. I could use the laugh.
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She hasn't even listened to them. She has no idea what she's talking about! I've been arguing on the internet for 30 years, and I'm not sure I've ever seen a more brazen attempt to get out of a corner
Thank you- I haven’t listened to them yet. Plan to do so on my long boring ass drive home tomorrow
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Wait. Your…qualifications in this are you have been arguing on the internet for 30 years? And you are this bad at it? I really hope this isn’t your day job. Cool. So. First of all I wasn’t backing down on what I (an expert in crisis management, with the actual background for it) was saying.
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My qualifications are that I listened to the podcast and you didn't
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What information did you get from listening to the podcast that is informing your position here?
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Let me state my position first, since I'm not sure it's getting across: Gaiman made explicit admissions of sexual acts to the podcast. If Neil Gaiman disputed making those admissions, he would have already done so
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Timestamps where this happens Jeff? You...have those right?