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There are two elements to the immunity decision that are particularly extreme in a way that many will miss: (1) motive is irrelevant and (2) immune acts are not just excluded from prosecution, they’re excluded from evidence. /1
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/2 Motive being irrelevant means that the President can do a thing for expressly lawless reasons so long as the thing is within the extremely broad range of official acts. So question isn’t “can the President conspire to defraud,” it’s “can the President call a state official about an election.”
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/3 The problem is that almost anything can be shoehorned into an official act depending on how you characterize it or the level of generality you use. The Court’s “well of course a President has to use due care that election laws are enforced” hints at this.
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/4 More powerful, to a trial lawyer, is the prohibition on the use of immune acts as evidence. In almost every other context (save Speech & Debate), you can use things as evidence when you can’t prosecute for them. If I say “this man must die,” that’s usually protected by the First Amendment ….
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/5 …but it’s obvious that my statement can be introduced as evidence if I’m accused of murder. Contrast this type of Presidential immunity. Say Donald Trump, days into his second term, meets with the Department of Justice and demands a way to deport all Muslims, reviling them as subhuman.
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/6 Later Trump orders a staff member at Mar-A-Lago to kill a Muslim employee, possibly by serving him the food. Under the Court’s rule, even assuming that ordering Mar-A-Lago to kill people is unofficial conduct (not 100% clear), Trump’s anti-Muslim tirade to the AG would be inadmissible at trial.
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/7 Justice Roberts smug and superior dismissal of the dissents’ concerns seems to come to us via time warp from some time that never knew Trump. The danger of lawlessness he poses are manifest — he and his followers brag of them. Only a liar or fool would dismiss them.
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it is because roberts thinks january 6 was good and normal
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there's probably an argument running in his head that if january 6 was a coup, someone would have been charged with treason
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Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett helped steal the 2000 election, starting a riot to do so. I think they literally do think J6 was good and normal.
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We know now that SCOTUS will help a GOP Congress throw out a Biden election win and I stall Trump via State delegation poll. This is coming.
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It feels like all the talk of moderation, precedent, and norms was just a delay until he had sufficient coverage via a conservative majority to go full partisan.
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Glib and smarmy is infinitely more dangerous than foamy and flag inverting.
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I guess Wilmington 1898 now counts as Supreme Court precedent
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Roberts send to think that none of this will blow back on him personally, despite the fact that half the MAGA crowd think he's a squishy rino
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Roberts fundamentally thinks that elections are things the little people do and that jan 6 was just a little people thing.
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