I'm getting the impression it's not easy to disbar somebody and takes *forever*.
Which is probably a good thing as you're taking away somebody's livelihood, but I agree it seems like it's taken too long in this rather obviously deserving case.
The justice system takes away people's livelihoods all the time with unconscionable rapidity so i really don't have a lot of sympathy for that argument
That means there should be more protections for everyone, not less protections for lawyers.
Either way, Giuliani deserves to be disbarred everywhere and have to find some other job. And hopefully not politics again.
Ok well when we have those I'll say its ok for us to be loosey goosey as a society with lawyers but until then I think the only reasonable way to counterbalance the extreme harm lawyers can do to people is to make them accountable to an extremely rigid code of professional ethics.
Also, the VAST majority of lawyers aren't trial lawyers or people like Giuliani. They spend their lives writing nasty letters to insurance companies who denied claims for no good reason, or checking contracts, or...
I'm confused. Are you saying that those people don't have any other power over other people's lives? Or that not being a trial lawyer somehow protects you from behaving unethically?
People with special privileges should be held to a strict code of conduct as a function of how much power they wield
Nope, just saying not all lawyers have dramatic life or death power...in fact most don't.
Doesn't mean they shouldn't be held to professional standards, of course.
Well, again, we're not talking about dramatic life or death consequences. Just the end of their careers.
And I disagree! Anyone who has ever required the services of an attorney is, for lack of a less dramatically-loaded idiom, at their mercy with respect to something very important in their lives.
The existence of good lawyers does nothing to mitigate the potential for harm bad lawyers possess as a consequence of our societal systems.
Im not even talking about imprisoning them or any punishment beyond "you cant be a lawyer anymore."
They lose no rights by being disbarred.
Then they should behave in such a manner as to be beyond reproach
I was held to an extremely high ethical code as a Marine officer.
Power is a privilege not a right.
