I'm getting the impression it's not easy to disbar somebody and takes *forever*.
Which is probably a good thing as you're taking away somebody's livelihood, but I agree it seems like it's taken too long in this rather obviously deserving case.
The justice system takes away people's livelihoods all the time with unconscionable rapidity so i really don't have a lot of sympathy for that argument
That means there should be more protections for everyone, not less protections for lawyers.
Either way, Giuliani deserves to be disbarred everywhere and have to find some other job. And hopefully not politics again.
Ok well when we have those I'll say its ok for us to be loosey goosey as a society with lawyers but until then I think the only reasonable way to counterbalance the extreme harm lawyers can do to people is to make them accountable to an extremely rigid code of professional ethics.
My honest assumption was that a core rationale behind professional accreditation for lawyers, doctors, engineers etc. was precisely that it is important to prevent them from using their positions to do harm, so you need a more responsive body to remove them from their work than the legal system
A huge part of the reason i hate cops as an institution is that they either drag their feet or flat out refuse to allow any cop to come to any level of accountability for misconduct.
Lawyers are sort of by nature called to do lots of extremely unpopular things on behalf of their clients, so the bar for the bar to disbar them just because of public outcry has to be pretty darn _firm_. But unfortunately, many bars have confused that with making the bar _high_. Two different things
Yeah I mean no one is saying that lawyers should be disbarred just because of public outcry. All I'm saying is that we should make it a priority to investigate and once we determined that an ethical lapse occurred, shitcan them so fast their heads spin
If they did that, so many judges & prosecutors would be out on their ass in a heartbeat, but then state bars would lose their legitimacy & influence, which they derive primarily from money & political power first, professional consistency second. It like a union & a monopoly both.
Tbf he was a terrible mayor and everyone hated him before 9/11. He got a second chance after 9/11. I'm not shocked that his awfulness became clear again in the end. I was a bit surprised that people were so ready to give him that redemption arc after he was such a weird petty dictator mayor.
Does (3) ban him from commenting on the law on Fox News?
In other situations, where somebody would be paying him for a correct opinion, obviously he should be banned.
The minions keep facing consequences, but they keep lining up to back Trump despite all evidence that his protection extends only to himself.
It's nice and all that Giuliani is disbarred, but the fact that this is going to change precisely nothing in MAGA world just reaffirms what a cult it is.
