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I know that I'm an outlier on this, but I think judges should be required to recuse themselves if they know any of the attorneys representing any of the parties more than casually. If you've ever had dinner together, you shouldn't be allowed to decide their case.
just throwing things out there, but there really should be a moratorium on judges handling cases litigated by their former firm/employer for some reasonable period. two years? three years? i would rather not haver to consider whether i want to take a case litigated by the judge's former colleagues.
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The thing is that such a rule makes a lot more sense where you live (NYC area) than where I do (greater Minnesota) and it's hard to say that a rule like that should apply in some places but not others.
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Understandable, but even in rural areas I don't think it's great when attorneys become judges and then continue to fraternize with attorneys they knew before they were judges who appear before them.
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I completely agree. It's just that the one judge in a county of 15,000 people is probably extremely well acquainted with every one of the ten lawyers in the county and it's not practical to say that the judge needs to recuse, while that would be very reasonable in NYC or Chicago or wherever.
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But I have walked into those counties going up against one of those ten lawyers, and you know what? It sucks.
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I've had some cases in very rural counties in New York, and it really is a pain when the judge and the other attorney clearly know each other well!
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Very uncomfortable. And at least where I am I have quite a bit of faith that the judges generally aren't making (at least consciously) biased decisions. But sometimes it's "opposing counsel screwed up to their detriment/should be sanctioned/etc." and that is a very heavy lift and does not feel fair.
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A lot of people see no problem with SCOTUS Justices' former clerks arguing cases in front of them and I just... do see a problem with that!
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Again, let’s all agree the nine people for life structure has outlived its usefulness and create a very large panel, maybe all the appellate judges, and have them sit in term limited panels so that no one knows who is going to be hearing their case
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Although I know exactly what you’re saying, having lived in places where it is inevitable that all the lawyers and all the judges have all known each other forever, then you have to at least recognize the issue & try to mitigate the biases
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Basically the scotus bar has for generations been former Clerk’s litigating in front of former Clerk’s of prior justices right? Very democracy much nonnepotism
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