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There's an interesting problem in digital preservation, which is that preservation only exists actively. Only the things you actively move to new formats, survives. Community is probably the same way: it has to be actively maintained in order to outlive whatever spot it's currently in.
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The ideal social media is not actually any particular instance, but an up to date contact list. Everything else is details, and every hangout spot will inevitably go rancid.
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That game you love vanishes if no one bothers to crack it and pirate it and emulate it. That person you like, vanishes if the ground turns sour and you didn't figure out a way to find them after fleeing elsewhere.
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If you're gen x or millennial, odds are you have known some people online for *decades*. Across multiple now-dead forums, across vast gulfs of time in internet years. You've probably got a friend group that outlived multiple sites.
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Which is interesting. Gen X and millennials grew up having to learn how to use computers, how to go online, etc. One of these skills later generations didn't learn, was how to reconnect outside walled gardens.
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If you're over the age of 30, your first internet friends were outside walled gardens, they didn't really exist yet. You found them, and then found them in half a dozen different places none of which were the really *important* thing. The important thing was they were there.
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If you're *under* the age of 30, pretty much all you've known were walled gardens, you didn't really need to learn the skill of finding a friend hanging out somewhere else.
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This is probably part of why everyone on bluesky is 38 years old: 38 year olds are basically the only people who consider it totally normal to flee a sinking ship and then just casually resume the conversation on the tropical island they end up on. They've outlived dozens of ships.
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People who are much older, are busy oogling shrimp jesuses and big boobied centaur women on facebook. People who are much younger, only know 3 or 4 walled gardens and only maybe 1 has died on them so far.
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People right there in the middle, though: they grew up before the walled gardens existed, when you had to learn how to form a community that could outlive places, and then did so for decades. Hopping from sinking ship and burning building repeatedly their whole lives, finding their friends again.
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And, weirdly, this same group of people are also the ones who also learned how to preserve their media the same way. Not *only* do they still talk to a person they met on ICQ 25 years ago, but they still have the same rip of a movie they pirated then too, or such.
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The same generational cohort that learned how to actively preserve community beyond temporary hangouts, *also* learned how to actively preserve their media. In mostly the same way.
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I have a group of friends mostly in our 40s who are currently in a Discord server after we finally migrated off IRC a few years ago. The community started in the late 90s. And not long ago one of them hooked me up with a lossless rip of a CD I'd had in high school but lost.
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Oh, and it's been so long that I totally forgot that the core of the group started on AOL.
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… IRC still existed a few years ago?!
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Good gravy! Last time I was on was close to 30 years ago. 🫠
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On the topic of the thread, did you ask hear Freenode had a hostile takeover by a Korean prince (yes really) and everybody moved new servers (mostly that libre-something server, also some to Matrix protocol servers)
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Libera chat! Honestly, the whole thing seemed like a predecessor to what happened to Twitter, except the entire community was tech savvy enough to move en masse and say "we're all over here now"
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I heard about this! Seriously f'd up, the whole thing...
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Technically, since anyone can run an IRC server and clients are freely available, there is no reason for it to ever stop existing. That's the beauty of how the web used to work, before the big megacorps herded us all into their own walled gardens.
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I miss that a lot. It’s just that I hadn’t even heard anyone mention IRC in decades! I actually did one of those cartoon character head shakes.