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you simply do not have to have this argument aftermath.site/assassins-cr...

Stop Trying To Defeat Racism With Logic - Aftermathaftermath.site The new Assassin’s Creed game stars what appears to be a black samurai, which is cool. Anyone who tries to argue is just not worth your time.

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BLACKTHORNE: We are a but humble gamers whose goal is ensuring historical accuracy in a video game series built around the ancient aliens hypothesis and people who can telepathically control eagles. MARIKO: The Anjin hates black people.

The fact that both William Adams and Yasuke are listed as foreign born samurai on the Japanese wikipedia article makes all of this even more ridiculous ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B5%...

海外出身の武士の一覧 - Wikipediaja.wikipedia.org

Racists out there not knowing what “vassal” and “retainer” mean in feudalism

Extremely digging this meme, not seeing it as much as I’d like, and maybe that’s for the best

😂

Man, I need "Racism isn’t a logical position, so you cannot defeat it with logic." playing in my ears at all times, I *need* to realize that reactionaries don't operate on facts or logic

Sadly ogic doesn't imply righteousness or correctness, just cogent connections. The history of science is one of racism, exploitation and erasure backed by intelligently crafted logic. A cruel and discriminatory algorithm follows logic. A lot of cruelty is logical via mathematical profitability.

No doubt, I just mean more that it's pointless to argue with racists, or with antivaxxers, or climate change deniers with facts and logic. Their views aren't based in any kind of material reality

It always bears repeating about any kind of bigot:

Jonathan Swift said it first and best

I think it’s a mistake to believe they don’t have reasons. They want total power and will do and say anything to get and maintain it.

I need to write this on my hand.

I've heard there's some research showing there's a brief window of time before a bad idea solidifies into an identity where people can be reached or swayed by facts, but after that's it damn near impossible as you say.

If you follow the chains of logic in your examples, they all lead to an illogical premise: that one person or group is more deserving than another. Logic tells us we're all equal. So the problem is not *enough* logic.

I do feel like there can be a usefulness in dismantling their arguments, but not to reach *them* - they're clearly idiots, there's no point. People watching, though, might benefit from it That said, it's also important not to look like you're just "debating" - it helps legitimize their argument

honestly, Yasuke seems like a very interesting historical figure and i'm glad there's a game about him.

He's a side character in a few games, Nioh was a recent prominent example, and they made an anime series about him! If you're interested in additional fiction featuring him, there's quite a bit to see and play!

i wish that anime had been good like why make a big deal about the "true story of the black samurai" and then add a talking robot and a russian werewolf in a red leather catsuit

Was so glad they made him playable in Samurai Warriors 5. Shame it took that many games for him to appear, but still.

Iirc afro samurai was also loosely based on him or at least i spieed by him

Inspired. Damn fat fingers

Do not watch the anime it's ass

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.”

My only question on historical accuracy is: Was Yasuke really that hot?

What if the historical inaccuracy is that he was actually hotter?

they had to give him less swag so that people would stop cumming in their pants

QA went through the pants budget in a single day, Ubisoft had to airdrop more khakis

Oops

the highest level of Sword Art

It’s one of those things where the media is toned down from the reality because the creators don’t think the audience will believe it!

His lord was openly bisexual and heavily favored him so probably.

holy shit we finally got white male gamers to express concern about Asian representation their blind rage at the mere sight of a black person is enough to bend the fabric of reality

getting so racist you become woke

Don't get too excited, it's lurely in bad faith and also asian fetishism

Purely^

Oh Christ gotta prepare for a deluge of The Worst People now

Combo nerd rage of a black man AND a WOMAN!!! The horror…

Terrific piece. Something it took me a long while to realise, and I still haven't fully let go of, is that a subconscious level I think that the right form of words in this conversation will cause someone to go 'oh right, he is in fact a human being too', when it obviously won't.

It's consensus bias. Basically, you're open to learning new things and modifying your belief structure, so you tend to believe that everyone shares that stance. We all think that our point of view is universal among everyone else. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_c...

False consensus effect - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org

This is really interesting, thanks so much for the link!

Happy to share! I really like learning about our biases like that.

it ...actually never occurred to me that an ordinary human being can just be immalleably and irredeemably evil. I knew about consensus bias, and that's how I discovered certain things about myself, but I never thought it might apply to things like having a heart

instead my reasoning for not arguing with racists on the internet is that I know my opinion as some random leftist on the internet holds absolutely zero value to them, and my facts even less

Related from yesterday: "I thought I could engage with them in constructive conversations but what came my way was just horrible. There were people who just hate black people.” “I was overwhelmed by online racist abuse - Hewitt” www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-...

Mental health: Ashton Hewitt 'overwhelmed' by racist abusewww.bbc.co.uk Dragons wing Ashton Hewitt aims to encourage more rugby players to open up over mental health issues.

for fucking real

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“Racism will never end so long as it is combated frontally in terms of rational rebuttal” - The Transparency of Evil

Would be cool if we didn’t treat racism as a logical puzzle to be solved

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