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“Enjoy the camps” “I won’t feel sorry for you when you’re crying in the streets.” These are the responses Biden supporters have been sending to marginalized young ppl after I wrote about them refusing to support Biden until he stops funding Israel, stops ignoring the pandemic, among other policies
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The way they so quickly respond with gleeful fantasies about POC being harmed is disturbing. It’s something that I saw from Trump voters in 2016 that’s become completely normalized among the Biden fandom. Not good
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You think it’s “gleeful”? They know who Trump is and what he’s capable of. Anyone obstinately refusing to help the one person who can stop him because they’re mad Joe wasn’t good enough on their single pet issue clearly doesn’t remember 2017-2021.
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None of that excuses engaging in performative, reactive cruelty to cajole people toward a Biden vote. This is trash ass abusive behavior, not politically effective advocacy or in any way acceptable. We get it. Y'all are scared and enjoy using threats and fear as a cudgel against vulnerable people.
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I don’t see any of it as performative, any more than it’s a dramatic performance to shout at someone who is about to blindly walk into traffic. Those who actually care about vulnerable people are supporting the one person who can stop Trump from harming them.
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It absolutely is a performance, both of allegiance to electoralism and privilege. The refrain reveals that many people feel entitled to abuse others over a difference in tactics, and it weaponized the fact that vulnerable people are among those who Biden is hurting now, + that's why he loses votes.
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Also, if it's really about protecting the vulnerable and not just offloading angst and blame by invoking the traumatic spectre of camps, it's not functional. It's just misdirected hostility. bsky.app/profile/virt...
Sad part is: Instead of blaming disaffected voters with legitimate concerns, they could actually badger electeds who have the capacity and ability to address voter concerns -- but their sense of urgency never seems to lead in that direction. It's easier to blame and punch down on marginalized folks.
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Pet issues such as “don’t do a genocide” do you even hear what you are saying?
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What word would you use instead?
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I think it’s a warning, based on having paid attention during Trump’s term, as well as to what he has said and done since.
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If it were just a warning, people wouldn't say "have fun...", right? The term "have fun doing [x]" is, to my knowledge (and I'm autistic so I may be wrong here), a pretty explicitly sarcastic one. There is an air of expectant "I told you so", isn't there?
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Maybe I’m Midwestern but warnings often carry the air of “I told you so”.
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And you don't think that is because the culture enjoys watching the foibles and failures of the foolish?
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As a Latino immigrant, I can assure you that Democrats/self described "liberals" have been talking like this for at least 2 decades (that's as far back as my memory goes). I have been hearing liberals tell me to enjoy getting deported if I don't vote Democrat since Bush.
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Trump voters are telling people they’ll end up in.camps because Trump’s going to win. And Biden voters are also telling people they’ll end up in camps if Trump’s going to win. What’s your conclusion ?🤔
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That blindly following leaders leads to undesirables in camps?
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that you view opposition to second trump term as a “biden fandom” is staggering, it’s like you think dobbs etc have no consequences worth caring about
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JFC we are here because these very same people mostly don’t vote and have refused to get off the bench to begin with. They think they are going to get their progressive utopia through wishful thinking an awful third party candidates rather than the hard work to move the Overton Window.
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The responses are brutal but what possible advantage is there to allowing a trump victory?
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It’s not fantasy though. Trump will round up 11 million people - do you think they will not be harmed in any way?
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Jfc. Try really hard to dig your fat German head outta your ass
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What if I don't want to see ppl harmed or in camps but want ppl to not allow the guy to be elected who'll worsen income inequality, deport millions, and keep appointing disgusting judges and justices? Is there any argument that can sway ppl to keep Trump out or do they not care about these things?
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It's ok to be angry at these ppl for not doing everything they can to keep Trump out, who will appoint judges and justices that will strike down every left-leaning policy the young people and I care about. They're mad about Gaza and so am I. I wanted Bernie. We have to play the hand we are dealt.
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When Trump is reelected, I am sure as shit going to be very angry with anyone who opposes him, yet didn't do everything they could to prevent him from taking office and thus our country from decaying 20x more quickly under his second term.
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And I do agree that it is wrong to tell someone to "enjoy being in a camp." More appropriate to ask them how the hell they thing everything they care about is going to look under a second Trump term. This isn't a game. Women have lost autonomy over their own bodies already.
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You have to read the book Bullshit jobs. It really explains this dichotomy. For years the “left” (or really the center) has appealed to a segregated upper middle class that keep their station by being rich. The travesty is really how the ext. right got so many ppl to believe it was working for them.
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Just a few posts up from yours I read how Trump just endorsed killing journalists "left" journalists. I'm not sure "gleeful fantasies" is the term you're looking for.
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I understand the young at a certain level & don't at another. Everything they hate about Biden would be worse w/Trump, but yes why are we always having to vote for either old AF or neoliberal BS (usually both).
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They're proving gen z right. We haveyo prepare to resist Nazi America no matter who wins