Faine Greenwood: saying this is NOT the same thing as saying that the situation is no big deal and everything will be fine - but the truth is, when things look really bad, ceding defeat before you've actually been *defeated* is a completely useless strategy.

saying this is NOT the same thing as saying that the situation is no big deal and everything will be fine - but the truth is, when things look really bad, ceding defeat before you've actually been *defeated* is a completely useless strategy.

I really have lost my former tolerance for "we're doomed/fucked/it's all over/they've won" takes at this point, in that they're the most dangerous attitudes one could possibly have when confronted with a truly existential political threat (which we still DO have levers to address).

Starshine has the right of it:

Despair creeping in? Worried things ultimately won’t work out for you? Is Hell getting a bit too Hellish? Consider setting those worries aside and trying Grim Determination and focusing on helping who you can however you can Ask your doctor if Grim Determination is right for you

always happy to spread word of the good book

big grim determination fan myself also a big fan of spite

At the dv shelter my one counselor who's basically a therapist is a big proponent of spite to get your life back on track

it's always been my biggest motivator

hell yeag, spite gang rise up!

The Good Book also has that covered

>big fan of spite

does this count? i feel like this counts

The book series where you have to be some variety of mentally ill and traumatized to use magic and be a hero? Yeah, it counts.

I was gonna say "I think that's Mistborn" but no, "The world will break you and eexpect you to perform feats of heroism despite that, and maybe nobody will stand up for what's right with you and maybe you'll be alone and broken and traumatized in doing what's right, but damnit, maybe you won't" is

really a running theme in Sanderson's books huh

Ahh what book is this from

Stormlight Archive! Specifically Way of Kings part 2, end of chapter 56

Extremely worth reading but also a BEHEMOTH of a saga, would suggest trying the original Mistborn trilogy or the standalone Warbreaker book to see if Sanderson's style suits ya first

Ah i have those on my shelf just havent gotten around to reading them

Declaring that something’s hopeless and you should just give up has much the same effect as dismissing it as not worth worrying about. Both encourage inaction. Both only help the worst people in the world.

The naysayers and the doomsayers are two attack wings of the same strategy: to get people to shut up and ignore the problem.

It is time to fight. Otherwise, fuck off.

I am currently referring everyone to Samwise Gamgee: youtu.be/k6C8SX0mWP0?...

LOTR The Two Towers - The Tales That Really Mattered...youtu.be Sam's speech in Osgiliath, at the end of the Two Towers. (HD Blu-ray) Frodo: I can't do this, Sam. Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy. Sam: How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Sam: Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something. Frodo: What are we holding on to, Sam? Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for. My main channel, XEgalmothOfGondolin: http://www.youtube.com/user/XEgalmothOfGondolin "Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favorite of fair use." Disclaimer: The video is under the protection of "fair use". It is non-profit and it doesn´t affect the sales of the original content. I have uploaded it so people can comment and give criticism, good or bad, of the original work.

If we came together en masse to tell the Democratic Party this, they would still be in their soundproof rooms refreshing the Matt Yglesias substack until he illuminates the possible

There is no vision beyond being able to say that the unprecedented streak of orderly transfer of power did not break on their watch. If nothing else, they will defend that dignity for us

I guess you're right, might as well report early to the GOP re-education camps since this is all too hard

The point is that you can get mad at online posters all want, but the rot within the party did not come from a lack of popular confidence in it. If anything the party believes that people and their uninformed demands need to be managed and tamed if anything is to be done.

I’ll never ever forget Kamala Harris, after being asked if the Democratic Party could do anything for abortion rights after Hobbes, replied “Do what?” That is the vision, that is the imagination. This is the state of things that WE left THEM, after all. What do we expect them to do with our mess?

What we’re seeing and will continue to see is the party closing ranks, because this election is adult business. The worst thing you can do for your child, after all, is allow them input into aspects of life they can’t truly appreciate. They’ll just hurt themselves

The crisis for the Dems is that they really buy into the narrative that people want fascism, and that what’s needed is to weather the tantrum, somehow. It’s not about convincing ppl they don’t want fascism, it’s abt convincing them that getting what they think they want isn’t good for them

There is always a fighting chance. It's a matter of getting out there and getting active. The Bell's not rung yet!

I get called a doomer because I think the whole system is broken and fucked even if the democrats win. But saying that isn't the same as saying "I give up, let's do nothing". It's just that, while sure, vote for Biden, that _isn't_ the fight. The US system may be unsavable, but people aren't.

Rage, rage, against the power grab of the Right

It's not over until it's over, we've still got time and millions of people have the ability to make the right choice!

Never been one to suffer in silence, myself.

yeah I mean look at how it works out for the dems

Ok I like this attitude. Will try to adopt

Obviously don't *say* the *thing*. But keep your powder dry.

A lot of people won’t even *consider* fighting back before we’re fully fucked, though. It’s not necessarily an “I give up” position, sometimes it’s a matter of NOW is it bad enough yet?? Some people need to hear the “we’re fucked” part out loud.

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