I was asked, at great length, a question yesterday that I tried to read as other than "I get that nonbinary people want to use their pronouns of choice, but do the rest of us have to honor that?"
And I couldn't.
So: Yes. The rest of us do.
"But it's confusing!"
Pronouns are always confusing. Try copyediting a sex scene between two men.
AU: Not sure whose penis "his penis" is here. Can you clarify?
Joking quite towardst one side:
Yes, the use of they/them/their for one person at a time poses an editorial challenge in terms of clarity.
So just toss it onto the pile with the rest of the editorial challenges you have to rise to.
Indeed. And for the non-fiction editor, there is no possible way that using they/them could be more awkward than having to enforce “he or she” or “his/her” or “s/he”—all of which are journal house styles I had to follow earlier in my career—and then argue with the author about it.
And, happily, all the "he or she" variations are now the deadest ducks.
And if you're still using "he" as a pronoun for unspecified theoretical single people whose gender is either unknown or irrelevant:
Knock it off.
When I started copyediting in the early 1990s, authors were in the thick of avoiding the epicene "he" with all manner of "he or she" variations.
Because I was trained so strictly not to use the singular "they," I often edited to dispose of a pronoun altogether.
Which is not that hard.
Of course you'd pluralize a noun whenever you could so you'd have "Students should study whatever they want" rather than "A student should study whatever" etc.
But sometime in the last few years we (departmentally) agreed never to challenge or edit around an author's use of the singular "they."
Here’s something I was thinking about the other day: do you think we’ll see the emergence of “they” combined with the usual singular present, i.e. “they walks to the store”? It feels too awkward to catch on, but some strict prescriptivist might try to make it.
Interesting idea though. I agree with @bcdreyer.bsky.social that it’s unlikely because they + plural is so ingrained. “Ze” in Dutch is both she and they, and you do differentiate between ze loopt (she walks) & ze lopen (they walk) but I guess that’s because (a) it imparts useful info and (b) custom
Also, speaking of words with z's in them, it's not at all surprising to me that the dominant nonbinary pronoun is now they or them, because I think that people will always lean toward something that exists over something that's concocted.
people sometimes go “singular they is ungrammatical, why don’t you make up a neutral pronoun?” to which the answer is : we did, for over 40 years, you wouldn’t use them!
If a manuscript including one of those devised neutral pronouns had ever crossed my desk, I suppose I would have had to figure this all out a long time ago, but one never did so I never did.
what do you think of "themself" (for a generic person not a person who uses they/them pronouns)? it's one of those things that logically i feel i should support but viscerally i have a hard time pulling the trigger
BTW I really like the use of "themself" for single nonbinary people, and given that I didn't invent it (I do not invent language things, I simply follow along or don't) I'm happy to endorse it.
