southpaw: More from that same poll: “49% of Independents and 15% of Republicans said Trump should end his campaign because of the conviction.” www.axios.com/2024/06/01/p...

At some point Democratic elected officials will notice that when Donald Trump has a personal setback the majority of the population literally celebrates in the street, I hope.

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More than half of voters approve of Donald Trump’s New York convictionpro.morningconsult.com But a vast majority of Republicans want Trump to stay in the race against President Joe Biden, according to a new survey conducted after the jury's verdict

People like to see a bad man get his, and imo the fact that Trump has got another trial for a crime he’s essentially admitted being ground into dust by a corrupt judge whom he appointed affords Democrats great latitude to assertively and creatively fuck him up, if they have the sand to do it.

More from that same poll: “49% of Independents and 15% of Republicans said Trump should end his campaign because of the conviction.” www.axios.com/2024/06/01/p...

Poll: 49% of Independents think Trump should drop out post-guilty verdictwww.axios.com The poll offers the first clues about how voters are reacting to the unprecedented situation.

I have to imagine Nikki Haley is screaming at herself for oh-so-recently ending her campaign and backing Trump.

Well, she is an idiot, so there's that.

No. . That was the smart play in order to get the nom at the convention which is her only route. With him likely getting time in custody on 7/11 and convention 7/15 and her delegate count... It's the hey I unequivocally supported him before his conviction but he can't win in custody

Also watch for an uptick of Haley as the nominee polling showing her crushing Biden with Trump losing/barely winning.

zero chance he spends one minute behind bars on this

Are you saying he won't be sentenced to custody time or that he won't serve any time he is given?

If he is sentenced to jail time, which I de as highly unlikely, he won’t serve any time as he will appeal.

Well he doesn't get to stay out pending appeal so

Possible, but I still see the base coming for her with knives out if she is the last-minute nom, calling her a "Deep State usurper."

I wonder if 51% of independents reliably vote Republican

We all literally watched him try to end democracy on live television, botch a pandemic response, outlaw abortion, and he’s still outperforming Biden in some polls.

That might tell you something about those polls.

🤷Most Republicans who want Trump to drop out will still vote for him.

Yep. Trump's big problem is that he's losing independents en masse. A lot of them would rather see him in prison than vote for him. And right now they're about 1/3 of the voting population. A "generic Republican" has a much better shot vs. Biden than Trump does. But they can't win the primaries!

“Independents” still usually vote Republican or Democrat. If he hasn’t already lost their support, I see no reason why he will now, even if people would rather he drop out. There’s too many right-wing fever dreams that will keep people voting against Democrats.

Independents are reasonably classified as Dem-leaning or Rep-leaning. They're less partisan than actual party members, though. And Trump is losing the ones who ordinarily vote for GOP candidates. He's also losing some Republicans, and he can't lose any of them.

Then there is this: www.bloomberg.com/news/feature...

Wall Street Billionaires Are Rushing to Back Trump, Verdict Be Damnedwww.bloomberg.com A growing number of financial elites are throwing their weight behind Trump, who was found guilty in the first criminal trial of a former US president.

Democracy or oligarchy privilege and tax cuts? Not a tough choice for these folks.

Their opponents are busy protecting the institutions that are already lost. Or owned by the Harlan Crows. We are in deeper shit than most realize. If we somehow survive November, I hope people don't get complacent as like after J6. Susan Collins is openly a MAGAt now, that's how bad things are.

How about the prosecution slow walking the appeals process

Ok, but there is always a 15% of Republicans who are disgusted by something he did, but vote for him anyway.

Nah. He should stay in. He has Rob Schneider on his side.

That’s a DEATHBLOW

It would be if people kept these same sentiments to November.

the goal of all republicans (well, most) is to pretend the verdict is illegitimate in some way, and beat that drum until november. they know that 15% will steadily decrease.

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