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I don’t think I could eat out at multiple restaurants 250 nights a year but if I did a steakhouse would be waaay down on the list.
I’m just trying to imagine a restaurant that I would be willing to eat at 250 nights a year.
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I love steak but absolutely not, I could probably do that once a week at most
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Even if you rotated in fish or whatever those places get old quick
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I think there are a lot of rich people who do certain things because they’re what rich people do. Rich people eat $50 steaks, and decorate with gold and marble. See also: Donald Trump
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$50 steaks? That's like the price of a burger at one of those places! Boy you can sure tell you've been running with that NPR crowd, Sagal.
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By gum, you’re right. In my defense, I haven’t been to one myself since 1994.
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I once read an article about one of the founders of Smith and Wollensky (neither Smith or Wollensky, they don’t exist) who said the entire business model was convincing people to pay $100+ a person for food anyone can cook.
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Honestly a dry aged steak is worth almost any price in the unlikely event a person is able to find one where they live. Just not five times a week.
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I’m happy Peter came over to BlueSky. He helps make it a better place. 100% not sarcasm btw
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Controversial Take: Making a decent steak is a million times easier than a good pasta sauce (from scratch). But nobody paying $120 for carbanara.
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It's not controversial with me. Although I will admit the quality of the meat (source, aging etc) matters a lot.
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I don’t think this is remotely controversial. It is true, however, that a giant chunk of high quality dry aged beef is pretty expensive, even on restaurant volumes, and most places to try keep food costs below 40%.
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Oh yea, in fact I think aged beef should be more expensive to reflect the environmental cost of it. And honestly, you need a good (and expensive) cook to handle food that is $40 per unit and keep you from losing your mortgage to spoilage. But sauce takes more energy, attention and art.
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my favorite thing about the boston smith & wollensky is that when you walk in you're greeted with a wall-sized photo of paul mccartney, who is a vegetarian
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At least this allows you to calculate cost per calorie and get the best caloric deal.
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That's most restaurants. Paying for the convenience of not cooking for yourself. It's as true for S&W as it is for McDonald's
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There's usually expected to be some kind of relationship between price and quality though. The creamed spinach at these places might as well come out of a Sysco Systems plastic bag and you pay $40 for the privilege. Veblen goods indeed.
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That's the "conspicuous consumption" upcharge.
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You seem to think you're making some point that Peter didn't make already....?
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Or just having a conversation emphasizing and expanding on the point.
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I cannot make a cracklin’ pork
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In my defense, I was dragged there by the for-profit university I was teaching for at the time, which was also providing us with an $25 per diem, making the business ethics of arranging a faculty dinner at a joint where that's the cost of asparagus somewhat questionable.
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In their defense, I think it might have been a Ruth's Chris, and there was fuck-all decent food in downtown Jacksonville FL at night. But still, fuck those assholes, because they knew what they were paying us in salary and how little of that meal a per diem would cover.
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I’m offended that green beans could cost $14 in downtown Cleveland
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Never mind this is the most offensive thing on the menu
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I will say, a) this is not an expensive steak house, and b) they put the calories right next to the price, without a dollar sign? Who does that? Or is that some NY law?
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It’s DC, and it’s the law in a lot of places
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It's a good law, I just haven't seen it. It isn't an Oregon kind of law.
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California and Washington do it, so I'd be surprised if it isn't in Oregon's future.
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Maybe Portland, I suspect not Oregon. It's an anti-nanny state State in a variety of ways.
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It's not the state, it's federal, for chains:
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What’s nanny about knowing what the prices are?
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You and I have different standards of ‘not expensive’
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This is not expensive for a steak house.
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Dude, rookie mistake! (Psychologically prepping myself for prices at an upcoming bday dinner).
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Oh my gosh, no! Morton's is for people with no taste on an expense account, not for birthday dinners!
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I might start a Gofundme to try one of these.
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The first two sound like what a Midwesterner thinks a New Yorker would say as an insult.