Princess_Lil: Vegeta wasn't redeemed until the moment he first hugged Trunks imo that was the moment he actually *finally* did something for other people.

the whole ‘actually, killing the villain makes us just as bad as him’ trope had done incomprehensible damage to society and i’m not kidding

This is why kids who love goku and Naruto Largely grew up to be communists.

To be fair to Goku, he usually left his villains alive so he could fight them again later. Not exactly morally upstanding, but you gotta respect his inability to really give a shit about casualties. That's what constant access to the dragon balls does to a man, I guess.

Alright he gave second chances after he utterly humiliated them and he's sure he can beat them up afterwards but he aint above murking Freeza, Cell and Buu, he straight up broke Nappa's back just to stop him

I hesitate to call what Goku does rehabilitative justice but it's hard to argue with results if you consider Tien, Piccolo, and Vegeta.

but what changed Piccolo was having a son 🤔 Vegeta changed after the 'humbling' that was Freeza wreckin' his shit before bearin' witness to the first super saiyan in that damn carrot (never watched pervy-ass Dragonball and don't plan to 🤷🏿‍♂️)

Vegeta wasn't redeemed until the moment he first hugged Trunks imo that was the moment he actually *finally* did something for other people.

damn now i wonder what King Vegeta was like as a dad 🤔

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