ZHUGE LIANG 285/600$: This is why kids who love goku and Naruto Largely grew up to be communists.

the whole ‘actually, killing the villain makes us just as bad as him’ trope had done incomprehensible damage to society and i’m not kidding

This is why kids who love goku and Naruto Largely grew up to be communists.

To be fair to Goku, he usually left his villains alive so he could fight them again later. Not exactly morally upstanding, but you gotta respect his inability to really give a shit about casualties. That's what constant access to the dragon balls does to a man, I guess.

Alright he gave second chances after he utterly humiliated them and he's sure he can beat them up afterwards but he aint above murking Freeza, Cell and Buu, he straight up broke Nappa's back just to stop him

I hesitate to call what Goku does rehabilitative justice but it's hard to argue with results if you consider Tien, Piccolo, and Vegeta.

Even Frieza who is pretty irredeemable came in handy in the TOP. Goku isn't amoral, he's just overconfident he can take down any guy that might cause trouble and gets blinded by his primary motivation to Fight Strong Guys

Him and frieza fighting together is a goated moment i swear to god

Goku brings everyone together with the power of “hitting them really really hard”

but what changed Piccolo was having a son 🤔 Vegeta changed after the 'humbling' that was Freeza wreckin' his shit before bearin' witness to the first super saiyan in that damn carrot (never watched pervy-ass Dragonball and don't plan to 🤷🏿‍♂️)

Both Piccolo and Vegeta changed after getting a second chance from Goku and understanding how Goku's nobler way of life could bring happiness and even strength to them.

Totally valid. We only have so many hours on this Earth and there's too much shows.

Vegeta wasn't redeemed until the moment he first hugged Trunks imo that was the moment he actually *finally* did something for other people.

damn now i wonder what King Vegeta was like as a dad 🤔

Dragon ball isn't pervy. how do you come to that conclusion?

To be fair, they might be referring to the original dragon ball series with kid Goku. It can be difficult to argue that that series wasn't pretty pervy. Dragon Ball Z onwards cut a lot of that stuff out.

Beating people up makes them your friends. This is why Pokemon works the way it does as well.

Sonic does this too and people complain about it especially in the comics but he doesn't have a strict no kill rule either and it's kind of presented as a bit of a character flaw at times like with Goku I feel like he might have killed some GUN agents in SA2 though lol

and that, children, is why those above won't solve the problems below

Goku gave them 1 chance to some and if they felt like wasting it kill shot it is. And that was until he grew up and realized he was stronger than most as a kid he decimated the hell of the red ribbon

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