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Reminder for people who seem to be convinced that a deficit barely outside the margin of error in July is insurmountable
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it’s less the current polling and more the “candidate cannot complete a sentence, let alone make an argument about why to elect him” everyone supporting JB before Thursday despite the polls assumed he would be able to campaign and grow his support the debate showed that’s a not a fair assumption
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Here's a thread with the president's post debate appearances. You're entitled to your own opinion, but it seems rash to say this if you've not at least looked at what's happened since then.
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It's not just the controlled, teleprompter events since the debates, it's his degrading performance since '20.
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You mean the performance where he's presided over the most pro-labor and progressive administration in modern history? Wild.
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This actually undermines your argument. Biden has had a good administration. Voters are rejecting him despite that, and their main reason is his age, not his administration’s policies. Further evidenced by the fact he’s running behind fellow members of his own party as well as the open fascists.
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The reason is because the media is shouting "Biden is old" from the rooftops, probably because their corporate masters are finally being regulated/prosecuted by Biden's DOJ. We're in the middle of a right-wing propaganda spree, and you're trying to pretend like Biden's admin actions don't count.
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1.) “the media” is a meaningless boogeyman. Newspapers are in freefall. Cable News median viewer is 70 years old. No podcast has more than a 5% marketshare. Most of the population completely avoids political media. 2.) *voters* have been shouting “Biden is old” for longer than the media has
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1) yeah, the media is terrified of its own irrelevance and upset that Biden refuses to hand them viewers like Trump did. 2) Voters had several options, including Dean Phillips. Voters instead chose Biden.
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1) pretending “the media” is a coherent monolith with a consistent agenda indicates you have no idea what decade you are living in 2) ask those same voters who they would’ve voted for if they knew JB wouldn’t be able to complete a sentence during a debate that his own campaign orchestrated
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1) they are private companies that are kept alive by ad sales, which require views and clicks. There's no conspiracy needed, Trump is controversy, and while he was in office, media viewership soared. After Biden came into office, it plummeted. Simple as.
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That is only true of like cable news and legacy newspapers. So it just confirms you are pretending to live in a different decade Most people interact with media via tiktok influencers, independent podcasters, subreddits, micro-blogging platforms, discord communities, whatsapp group chats, etc
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The outlets calling for Biden to resign/step aside are literally those who were affected by the readership/viewership drop once Biden was elected lmao what are you talking about? TikTok influencers, notoriously free from right-wing propaganda /s
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Hey buddy idk what to say if you think that legacy newspapers and cable news are going to have a larger effect on the election outcome than tiktok. WaPo has lost *50%* of its unique visitors since 2020. The median MSNBC viewer is *72 years old*.
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And they are incandescent at Biden refusing to engage them. They are also the primary drivers of the "Biden should resign/step aside" discourse.
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*candidate refuses to engage with friendly outlets* (relative to right wing media) would actually be another indication of his declining fitness. But that’s not really the point, any “discourse” driven by CNN or NYT is fundamentally irrelevant, as their plummeting viewership and readership shows
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But you just repeatedly stated that these outlets are irrelevant, now Biden needs to be engaging them? Make up your mind! Meanwhile, the donors themselves are mostly annoyed about...not getting big boy birthday calls? Are these really the people you choose to align yourselves with?
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I align myself with whoever has the best chance of beating the fascists this November Until that debate, I assumed it was JB Now I think Kamala would probably do a better job She looks alive & I doubt she would willingly segue into immigrant murder from a softball Q about abortion It’s a low bar
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You're literally repeating talking points being pushed by billionaire donors and corporate media outlets. How exactly are you concerned with beating fascists when the outlets publishing these opinions regularly publish "why I don't vote" articles? You're just repeating right-wing smears now.
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I just cannot emphasize enough how little I care about “outlets” and their random op-Eds The talking points I am repeating is what *I experienced* watching the debate. He couldn’t speak. He looked more ancient than ever. The immigrant murder thing happened.
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Buddy, I don't actually think you have an original thought in your head, given you've just been repeating the same right-wing talking points over and over again.
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Which talking points? Because if “joe biden looks old” counts as a right wing smear, you’re telling on yourself
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Your lack of awareness truly is incredible.
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I think anyone who disputes that Joe Biden looks old should avoid criticizing other’s awareness
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The problem is the jump from "looks old" to "is in fact not all there mentally," which is largely based on prejudices and ignorance and superficialities.
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The problem jumped from “looks old” to “is in fact not all there mentally” during the debate where he both looked old and was clearly not all there mentally telling people to not believe their lying eyes (or parse transcripts instead) is an obviously losing strategy
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We're not talking about crowd sizes. Most people actually don't know how to diagnose cognitive disorders, which is why relying on folk wisdom and "common sense" and associations with personal experiences that may or may not emphasize the right things are extremely fraught.
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It's easier to fall back on what you think you know than to admit that you don't know, but that doesn't make it right!