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the only actual "problem" with WFH (actually a management problem, as with everything) is that people no longer have any concept of "business hours". just because people have access to their "office" all the time doesn't mean they have to work outside their 40 hours!!
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if you email someone at 4:47 on Friday and then send another angry email at 8:13 on Monday you have not been waiting three days, you have been waiting 26 minutes
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lol i had this guy i worked for in law school that thought he fucking owned me because i was working on a side project for him. i went on a vacation and he fired me while i was on vacation because i wasnt at his beck and call. at no point did he set these expectations and honest i was happy to not
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I got fired by Alan Wolfe during graduate school for not doing something he didn't tell me to do.
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Or, if you're 9-5 like I am, I wont even get your angry screed for another 47 minutes, at which time you will have been waiting 13 minutes for a reply. I close my laptop at 5 and it doesn't reopen until 9. I don't even know you're yelling until I'm back at my desk.
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I know some who have their work email pushed on their cell phones. Insane I tell you.
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We have that capability, but I refuse to install the app. Esp as my company doesn't reimburse me for my phone, and the app allows them remote wipe capability. Nope nope nope. Will not be participating.
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Oh hell no. Mine does not pay for my phone, so I do not use it for work. and they cannot make me.
See I was going to say 'dual SIM?' but what's remote wipe? The capacity to wipe the entire phone? 😱 I guess if you thought it was a good enough job you could get a base level phone just for that but that kind of policy would put me off an employer tbh!
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I mean, I just don't access my email outside of my work hours and that works fine. Even for a "good enough" job I'm not an on call worker. I don't need to be reachable at all hours.
I guess how well that works depends an awful lot on the work culture 🤷
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i had someone who did this to me in 2021 and i had a very good time writing an email asking what exactly she thought a weekend was
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Esp. bad with people who think that the WFH is yr 2nd job that you do on weekends. I have a colleague for whom this is true. She ONLY responds on Sat-Sun, and then gets mad when I don't respond til Monday, because she's "at work." Babe, me too.
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I called in sick all last week because of COVID, when I got back to my emails yesterday I had one from Wednesday asking me to send a file right away so someone else can work on it. Do they really not understand that calling in sick means I'm not checking emails?
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grateful my work is very stern about 'if you aren't working DO NOT WORK' I responded to a quick message to my boss on a personal day, took me like 15 seconds, and he sent back that I'd taken a personal day and shouldn't have responded to him until I was next in.
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Set automatic reply/ out of office alert?
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"why haven't these people been checking their emails regularly during their evenings and weekends: I do!" [is quietly pushed off a cliff by persons anonymous]
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also i'm not logging on for another 47 minutes and i will not be dealing with your email first thing, so don't hold your breath. or do hold your breath and see how much that will improve the situation. actually i really think you should hold your breath for the next 47 minutes.
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I need to get this embroidered on a throw pillow for one of my dotted-line bosses.
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We have a service standard which requires us to respond to emails within two WORKING days. Some don't seem to understand that this means that if they email me even just a few minutes after 5.00 on a Friday morning, I'm not obliged to reply until the following Wednesday.
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Oops. I meant of course "if they email me... after 5.00 on a Friday EVENING...", not morning!
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I don't even work Fridays. It says so in my mail signature, and it's blocked out on my calendar. I leave at 5 on Thursday and start at 9 on Monday. If you email me like that you've been waiting entirely on your own time, not mine.
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I would turn the “out of office” options on automatically if the state employees started doing this to us at work (state contractor). Though we definitely had a Karen inquiry yesterday morning that the civil answer was “try refreshing your database, the payment went out at 8:01 this morning”.
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Shame on you for using logic and clear thinking. You’re gonna hurt somebody’s feelings.
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Thinking back to the agent who used to call to ask if we got their email the instant they sent it
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Some suit at work sent me an email once. That was a bit pointless because it’s my Hotmail address that I haven’t used in ten years, and I’ll be damned if they’re getting my current one.
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