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I swear to god there is a guy here in this cafe explaining to a woman about how there wasn't GRAVITY before Newton "made it up." One of his proofs is "how do you think they made the pyramids?"
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like he believes that COLLECTIVE BELIEF dictates the literal rules of reality
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I adore Alan Moore but there's a bit in one of his interviews where he declares that Native Americans literally couldn't see European ships because the ships were outside their known paradigm and it's like-- I can't watch someone I respect debase themselves with such chloroformed toddler logic.
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To be fair the first time I saw a cybertuck i couldn’t figure out if it was a real vehicle or if I was having a stroke.
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So in the TV show “The Expanse” Holden repeats that bit of nonsense and hearing that Moore repeated it made me go look it up because of how willfully ignorant the statement seems, though it SOUNDS clever. Yes it’s BS and based off some European tourist writing dumb shit. TIL.
Invisible ships - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org
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Odd that this doesn't happen regularly today given all the new things that haven't existed before. "This is a [insert unique technological achievement here]." "I'm sorry, but you aren't holding anything."
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The emperor’s new toys…
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This sounds so terribly, profoundly brain-damaged. Like, the 1st people to see meteors would have been seeing something outside their known paradigm, yet apparently could figure it out.
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I don't know if anyone should be *too* surprised to hear a self-proclaimed wizard repeating New Age woo.
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Hmm they said the same thing in the execrable "What The Bleep Do We Know". I guess it's a common New Age trope
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*Notes the term „chloroformed toddler logic“, nods and embeds it to the active vocabulary section.*
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I've never seen your house, Marshall, that means your house would be invisible the first time I came over to visit you
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Because you could not even CONCEIVE OF IT.
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Yes. But only the collective belief of awakened minds. (take a guess if HE'S one)
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Ok but what is her face doing?? Like… is she keeping it together or visibly about to lose it?
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She's eating PART of it up.
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I once had a convo with a flat earther, where another guy walked up who was a pilot. He refuted the flat earth thing, the FE left, then we chatted briefly and I realized the pilot thought the earth was 6k years old. Legit was on board with a globe, but dinosaur bones were put there as a trick…. 🤦‍♀️
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One of my friends got his hair cut by a woman who told him she thought Dino bones were a trick and we just thought she was her own brand of crazy. Now I know that’s a real thing people actually believe
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it's not uncommon in christian fundamentalist circles
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I have an approach to these kinds of people that, if the opportunity ever arises, I intend to implement. “So, reality is dictated by belief, eh?” Then I lead them to a high balcony — say, ten stories up — and say “Jump.”
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If they say “What! Are you crazy?” I say, “No, according to you, all you have to do to avoid dying is believe you can fly. So show me. Believe.”
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no see, the current culture has damaged their ability to truly believe they can fly, that's why they have to move the wider culture towards their beliefs, by any means necessary.
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Ah of course. You’ve got to shift the Overton Window before safely jumping out of it.
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A big fan of THE SECRET, I imagine…
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Well, that’s not that new of an idea but I think that we have pretty good records indicating that people collectively believed in gravity before it was described with, you know, math. Or whatever
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But if he wasn’t talking about this idea from the standpoint of explaining the double-slit experiment/quantum uncertainty through the theory of biocentrism, then he was just a garden variety ketamine addict
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Isn't that why the Roadrunner never falls off the cliff?