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Everybody who said they’d vote for a damp waffle over Trump back in 2020 better put their money where their mouth is this November.
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“Oh but Biden—“ Is not Trump. That’s how you end the sentence in the reality in which we live. It sucks and we need to change it, but your choices are the Damp Waffle Administration or Project 2025. That’s it. Sorry.
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Agreed, I think this concedes something very untrue about Thursday night's debate, and that when you look past the delivery, Biden promised young voters most of what they have been asking for, the way they said they want it asked (hoarseness and stutter aside)
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Bringing back Roe with a full-throated endorsement of first trimester abortion, more climate action like the IRA, student loans, and several other marquis issues in line with the Sanders 2020 promises. He's not a damp waffle, and if you read the transcript, it's exciting stuff!
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Yes! I was just about to say this. Biden has done some incredible good and none of it gets talked about.
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I liveblogged the debate and the winner was very clearly Biden, because he was debating, not performing. The current problem is optics, as in that respect, Biden failed at his job of presenting “POTUS = KICKASS SUPERHERO” Head cold won this round.
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I think it is very bad strategy and oblivious to what fascism *is* to concede that we should hold this conversation entirely on the terms of aesthetics. Governance by optics is bad, it is what fascism promises, and you should kick "optics" narratives like they owe you money
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Yes, I agree wholeheartedly But I’m talking about living in the reality of a two-party system in which a fraction of citizens watched the debate, a fraction of that read the transcript, & the rest get their news from memes and soundbites Optics is advertising, and Biden’s job was to sell himself
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His job THE REST OF THE TIME is to be POTUS, and—domestically—he has been the best in my lifetime. But the space of that debate, his job was to be Kickass Superhero You Can Trust, and while he won the debate, he failed at that message.
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You aren't agreeing with your whole heart, or any of it, if your point at the end is to do the opposite, but I understand why it feels necessary to soften that
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Debating Trump is like playing chess with a pigeon. It'll just shit all over the board and strut around like it won.
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I agree with this take in part, but I don’t think a head cold said “we beat Medicare” and that line is gonna hang around his neck like “read my lips” for HW Bush. A lot went wrong for Biden and I’m not ready to say he won on debate points, nor on projecting presidential gravitas.
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I agree that his substantive answers were stronger, better policy, and, well, truthful. That shouldn’t be a high bar, but against Trump it’s an important threshold to clear.
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I swear, some people treat a vote in the general election like it means supporting every stance a candidate has, and... no. Just, no. There's lots of things I don't like about Biden, but has the same (or worse) traits, *and much more.* It sucks that this is what we've got, but here we are.
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It’s the bus analogy. You get on the bus that takes you as close as you can to where you want to be, and you don’t get on the bus that goes the other direction.
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What's getting under my skin is the folks telling us we shouldn't be mad about it. I'm voting for Biden and I'm doing so in an utter and complete rage because the DNC has completely failed the people. I'm getting on the bus but I refuse to be happy about it.
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Maybe more newspapers will put out calls for Trump to resign and he’ll listen… oh wait of course he won’t. Even if Biden wins in a landslide expect every possible ratfucking action by republican legislatures and frivolous lawsuits.
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It's absolutely infuriating, he's actively supporting genocide and yet Trump will absolutely be worse for everyone.
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And the quote third option unquote is an actual nut job. We have to change this system but … November.
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As shit as it is, this is the reality we're working with so. I am furious at Biden and continue to harangue him regularly but I'm not going to opt out and ultimately let TFG in without a fight.
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Srsly. At this point, I am not happy AT ALL to be voting for Biden. Love the student debt help & the energy rebates, but the rest of it Sits So Wrong. So I get why ppl won't be voting. But if we get Trump, the whole SYSTEM (broken as it is) will be gone. We need to buy time to fix it then DO SO.
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Yeah I had been considering just not voting but watching Trump speak was so fucking horrifying. Biden is a monster and will not save us but Trump is the abyss. I think the death of our nominal Republic is inevitable at this point but it's worth buying another 4 years.
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Excuse me, but I clearly said I'd vote for a moldy ham sandwich over Trump. And god as my witness, I'm gonna vote for that sandwich in 2024.
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Worst case if Biden wins is that he can’t do the job and resigns after six months. Without all the hassle of trying to switch candidates.
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I'm honestly suspicious Biden will retire at a strategic time to give Harris an incumbent advantage for 2028. Break the glass ceiling for a Black woman the only way we're likely to get for decades. She's not as liberal as I'd like, but the MAGA tears would salt my popcorn.
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that's some "they're playing 4d chess" bullshit that i do not buy at all.
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That's why I'm only suspicious. I get suspicious easily. But I sure would like that salt for my popcorn.
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oh i would not refuse the freshly salted popcorn, no. but i in no way think it will happen.
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we did, the dnc had 4 years to prop up a candidate thats not a walking corpse.
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Yep, still voting for the ham sandwich.