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LOTS OF PEOPLE still need further proof that Trump is a monster. We should never shut up about it!
Yes, seen it... but we can do more than one thing at a time, and we really need no further proof that Trump's a monster. Kind of like discovering Hitler beat Eva Braun after discovering Auschwitz.
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Didn't say shut up about it, and you can't seriously think that totally candidate destroying news will cost him a single vote? At this point? He's a convicted rapists, right?
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Well, we’ve tried nothing, we’re out of ideas, and I guess we should start digging our own mass graves now!
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Faine, all I'm saying is that politically, attacking trumps character isn't effective. There's lots of other things we can do, but we need a HEALTHY, SMART, ACTIVE CANDIDATE to make those cases. He couldn't even make the case for Roe, FFS, and that's a lay down hand. Economy, jobs, infrastructure.
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Personally I prefer to spend my time talking shit about the rapist aspiring dictator pedo felon, not the guy we need to elect, but you do you
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Like the time, ohh, yesterday that Trump may have had his "Loretta Lynch tarmac moment", but with one of Vlad's charmers?
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The way we win this election is with a viable candidate. Trump is Trump, convicted rapist, known serial liar, con man, tax cheat... WE KNOW ALL THAT, yet there he stays because his voters DON'T GIVE A FUCK. Repeating it ad infinitum isn't the answer. Providing a real alternative is.
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The detail is that his plane was parked for two days next to a Russian govt plane, and the inference is that Trump can't be trusted because he's a traitor. In other words, nothing new. He's been a traitor for 30+ years. We know.
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Dude, you have absolutely dire political instincts if you think it’s pointless to discuss the hideous things Trump does.
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Trump approval ratings among GOP just doubled.
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I’ve been told by Very Serious People that it’s a nonstarter to discuss anything he said at the debate when we could be busy ratfucking instead
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It's not pointless, but it's not 'the point' either. It's been done. The entire world knows who and what a monster he is... yet there he stands. So the question is 'has it worked'? They know, but now they need a repository of their trust, a person who is NOT Trump AND a viable candidate.
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The reason this stuff is not effective is because people pull this "we already knew this" bullshit and dismiss it. No, not everyone knows how extensive this stuff is.
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I have seen no evidence at all that another trump rape story, another trump treason story, another trump fraud story is going to change ONE SINGLE VOTE to Biden. Were that true, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Show me where all the uninformed voters are and I'll reconsider.
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It's hard to measure the effect of such stories when they are never seriously presented by the media as such. Have you seen any headlines about new Trump rape or treason allegations?
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Right. Ppl are quick to blame the media for how short the bad news for Trump cycles are, but how long the inverse Biden ones echo. Yes, *some* of that is the biases and bad decisions of news desks. But it's also that our side drops "we knew that" and moves on. The other side never lets an oppp die.
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I mean we know he’s a traitor but I need something a little more substantial than “planes sharing a tarmac”
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Same here, and in addition I also talk about Project 2025 which will be the end of America as we knew it:
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Jasmine Crockett is the fucking GOAT
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Found someone else to mute, thanks. it's like whack a mole in here. I started to reply and stopped. Nope.