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Ok, everybody had their fun saying Biden should just disappear his political enemies because it’s allowed now. It’s a new day, and those jokes are all old now, and also they’re cynical and stupid and counterproductive. Democracy is on the ballot. Stop fucking acting like it’s already gone.
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Because if you and enough people decide it’s already gone, it is. It’s like watching Peter Pan where you, the audience, have to clap and say you believe in fairies for them to exist, except it’s real.
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My concern is this: if Roberts is willing to do this, we have to consider that he's willing to invalidate election results that support Biden. Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. But the risk is enough that I think we have to find any way to reform the court before the election.
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I would love to have the court reformed before the election. If you’ve got a mechanism to do it, I’m all ears, because I don’t see it.
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Well, SCOTUS just gave Biden the tools. EO that says: 4 new seats. Recess appointment 4 justices in. Hope that Congress is too broken to stop when they reconvene. But of course, that means not clapping for the fairy. At least for a little while.
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It’s important to note that this would both backfire electorally and also not work practically. There’s more to seating some more justices than just Biden not getting prosecuted for doing it illegally after he leaves office.
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Yeah this is the real answer: can’t be prosecuted doesn’t mean illegal acts have validity
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Right! Biden is like “there’s four new justices now” and the court is like “lol no there’s not” and every paper is like “senile Biden believes he’s a king” and the house impeaches him and probably honestly the 25th amendment is invoked.
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What Roberts and his court have done is made it very clear that there is no institution we can trust to keep our Democracy for us. All of them can fail if we vote badly. The only thing that will protect us is electing good people to office. All the offices. That's the only actual safeguard.
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You can't stop a bad president from doing bad things with a bad legislature. Period.
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Right. There’s lots of people like where’s our project 2025? And it’s making sure republicans don’t have power. That’s it. There is not a thing we can do to keep them from using the power they gain once they’ve gained it, no clever lawyering to prevent its exercise.
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If that's true, and I agree that it is, then we can't rely on voting either. The Republicans are already signalling that they will ignore the election. That's why I'm suggesting that Biden use his powers as the executive to take control of the other branches now, by force if necessary.
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This is a coup you’re talking about. An overthrow of the system of government we say we’re trying to save and we’re aghast that the court won’t defend. The question of how we save democracy can’t be answered with “we can’t and we shouldn’t.”
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Yes. I'm talking about a coup. Pelosi and Pence already did a coup to save democracy once. And I'll ask, what is your alternative? What happens when Roberts declares Wisconsin and Arizona for Trump? Every option looks awful, as far as I can tell.
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Ok then fuck it, you making sure your armory is stockpiled and you’ve got a list of soft targets?
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I don't know. I'm a pacifist, but I don't see how we avoid a real civil war now, unless it's to just capitulate to Project 2025. It feels like the best thing is a Biden coup, followed by a constitutional convention. Basically 1786 all over again.
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Here’s the thing: with what army? I mean this literally, do you believe that the armed forces of the United States are going to support these actions?
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That's the question, yeah. Presumably Biden can get a better sense of that than I can.
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Come on, you’ve got plenty of sense of this. It doesn’t take a Talmudic scholar or something.
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The Roberts SCOUTS has made no actual signal that they don't respect elections or laws. They said that the COURTS are not going to fix bad laws or bad elections. Those are different things and that distinction matters going forward.
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That's just not true. This immunity decision is literally making up a fake law in order to show contempt for the law. Meanwhile, Roberts has been the most hostile Justice to voting rights this century, and lawlessly keeps striking down election laws.
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I question if you have read the decision. It does not make up any laws. It says that the president is elected to do a job and that the criminal justice system cannot constrain that job description.
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The decision is bad! Like, it’s really bad! But it’s bad because it removes guardrails on Trump’s exercise of existing powers.
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Holy shit. That is not what it says. Jesus.