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The Court ruling today is terrible but expected. I will just gently remind everyone that the election hasn’t happened yet. We shouldn’t assume the worst outcome as a foregone conclusion. That only encourages more apathy than many are already feeling.
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Do you think most people actually expected this? I felt like most people expected that they would give a definitive 'no, of course the president can't commit crimes,' just too late to do anything before the election.
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This is EXACTLY what I expected from this court. Rule the POTUS has absolute immunity for official acts, then remand to the lower court to define if the charges fall under official acts, have the lower court rule they don’t, let Trump appeal back to SCOTUS who will then hold it until after Nov.
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It’s unlikely the lower court will even rule on the fact-based part of the case before November.
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The trial court likely will. Chuktan likes to keep things moving. But the lower appeals courts? Nah…def not until after Nov.
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Right—I hadn’t thought of all those pieces. But he can hold it up with appeals after that, right? Or could the trial court decision actually get enforced re the election?
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Oh he will definitely hold it up. Chutkan has signaled in the past that she sees his actions during J6 as those of candidate Trump, not POTUS. So once she likely rules against him, Trump will appeal and it will work its way up to SCOTUS who will then rule in his favor (provided he isn’t POTUS again)
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It’s nice that she gets to decide that even though he WAS the president, it didn’t, like, count as being the president.
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Um that’s not what she’d be deciding. The argument was made to her once already that his J6 actions were in the “outer perimeter” of his duties as POTUS. She ruled that he wasn’t acting as POTUS but rather in his capacity as candidate. Therefore not an official act of office.
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Ah sorry. I was a little confused by your comment (and should have picked up on that) but it’s been a day and I’m a bit too in my feelings I suppose! Apologies ☺️