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Doing some reading in"post-liberal" conservatism and struck by the simultaneous demands to return fertility rates to traditional levels and to destroy the economic system that has made a couple of centuries of global population growth actually possible.
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It's as if the goal "be virtuous salt of the earth types who have four or more kids, not like those bad liberal yuppies" is just a matter of personal character and is completely disconnected from the consequences of saying "we need to abandon economic growth as a goal."
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We know what permanently high fertility in the absence of permanent economic growth looks like, because it was the Malthusian norm before the 18th century or so. And it involved a lot of premature death, primarily but not only infant/ child mortality.
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The conservative belief that we can f_ck our way to prosperity handwaves away both the mass bad outcomes and narrow accrued benefit, as per usual
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You’re talking about people who are pro-natalist and pro-growth; I’m talking about people who are pro-natalist and anti-growth.
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It's internally consistent, if bad! Prosperity has raised the opportunity cost of having more kids so you do see fertility rates drop after a certain point on the income and education graph
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"Traditional levels" = "before women's economic independence" = "remove women from the economy."
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In my Gen X cohort, I know A LOT of women who never had kids because they never had the economic security to. Particularly ones who are: - college educated - working corp jobs - living distantly from family
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Besides the fact that it could never happen anymore. Companies would never and probably could never pay enough for the middle class to survive on on salary.
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There's a reason post-liberals have found allies in the crazy dark enlightenment folks - both groups want to return to pre-enlightenment values and forget everything we have learned since.
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Natalist: it all started to go wrong when women could get a credit card in their name
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There’s also the other classic contradiction: abortion is a crime but egalitarian economic policies and a social safety net lead to actual reduced numbers of abortions. (And access to birth control. Can’t forget that)
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