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At some point, New Yorkers are going to have to decide if they're a city that runs a police force or a police force that runs a city.
every weird political decision that comes out of NYC is because the cops yelled at someone
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i think that decision has already been made for us
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Is there any urban police force in the US that's plausibly under civic control?
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and that's definitely not a NYC-only problem
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KRS-One figured this out December of ‘93.
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The gangs of LA, (LAPD, LASD & CAA) decided that out here long ago.
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Technically LASD is like three or four gangs rolled into one
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Hand to jah - Hollywood Christmas parade. Listening to them talk to each other night after night was terrifying.
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NYC still hasn't psychologically recovered from the NYPD City Hall Riot, even though it was 30 years ago. I'm not sure if any mayor will be brave enough to take on the police again.
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It’d be nice if they elected one willing to try though.
We did, and he tried, and they threatened his daughter, so he crumpled like a cheap suit. Can’t really say I blame him. We need someone with no kids.
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I honestly don't know what any of us could do. Bill De Blasio made one tiny peep against NYPD and they doxxed, arrested, and threatened his daughter in retaliation. And instead of firing the Commissioner, de Blasio crawled back into a hole. That's the most a NYC mayor has done. Who can take them on?
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no - the NYPD does not answer to elected officials - this is a statement of fact. How do we change that? They have a lot of guns and steroids.
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Nearly every US municipality is in this situation. And our members of Congress & presidents also bend to police pressure. This country has a serious gang problem, & the gangs are taxpayer-funded law enforcement departments.
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Something something Mega-City One
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We've known the answer to that since Giuliani led the cop riot against Mayor Dinkins
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*sighs in Kansas City*
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GOTHAM. Who's Oswald Cobblepot, that's what I' d like to know.
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Mayor Mike already made that call
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while I realize it has been an incremental process of abusers continually pushing the line, Bloomberg took the post-9/11 funding and made it not just permanent, but also the continual increasing bite. He wanted a private army and got himself one. But they only answer to themselves
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The police were already out of control before, under Giuliani. Bloomberg also pushed hard for congestion pricing, and Cuomo shut it down.
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That's a big problem but I don't think that's what happened with congestion pricing. The consensus seems to be that Jefferies and/or Schumer told Hochul that congestion pricing would hurt Dems in House races in the Hudson Valley/NY suburbs.
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Police groups definitely opposed this, but the process of developing this plan took years and that wouldn’t have been new information. Congressional leaders saying ‘Kathy, this might cost us the House’ would’ve been more of an emergency.
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My point is *the cops’ narrative & pressure (with help from the NY Post’s recent coverage)* is what convinced those (foolish) members of Congress that congestion pricing would cause Dems to lose seats in the upcoming elections.
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i think that was decided when we elected Adams