Pwnallthethings: Right. And folks can (and plainly do) have lots of opinions on what to do now, but the overriding concern here, and in the D party apparatus isn't "will Biden be ok in the Oval Office" but "is his campaign going to get him there" and if not, can we fix it, and can someone else fix it, in that order

Aren’t the same people freaking out about Biden the ones perfectly happy to weekend-at-Bernie’s Feinstein — or play along with that — as long as they could? This is a genuine question; I don’t know.

Her seat was CA, where in the first round she got 44.2% to the highest R candidate (who came in third) getting 8.3% tho.

Which is perhaps to say, the freakout is also highly driven by how close the race is

Oh yes, definitely. Eh. I’m not freaking out about Biden; I am freaking out about the press, the pundits, the donors, and especially the campaign. This seems to me to be the You Have One Job of a campaign and that they can’t manage it scares me. It’s not a surprise!

Right. And folks can (and plainly do) have lots of opinions on what to do now, but the overriding concern here, and in the D party apparatus isn't "will Biden be ok in the Oval Office" but "is his campaign going to get him there" and if not, can we fix it, and can someone else fix it, in that order

Yeah. I’m mostly just noting the hypocrisy. Which — I am well aware doesn’t really matter! But I like to try to understand the processes.

I didn’t much like Biden and never liked the primary system. I thought he was too old in 2020! But the time to fix it was before the primaries. I don’t have the impression that he’s changed much, only the world, both in very predictable ways.

I think it's safe to say whatever solution they come up with, this past week has been a big mess, and it could have been handled a lot better

still, we are where we are

Remember Biden the gaffe machine? This isn't old Biden, it's classic Biden.

Yes! Thanks for answering btw. I’m trying not to freak out too much. As a risk analyst…that’s not easy. It’s just own goal after own goal…

I think the thing for me is there's still 4 months left. That's not a giant amount of time, but it's also plenty if they really did light the fight in the campaign

The problem is this is just a really hard election to properly model; in some profound ways it's not like any election up to 2016, and has some very important differences to 2016 or 2020 too in lots of important directions. Which isn't great for anxiety. But it does mean it's still all to play for.

I used to work at a newspaper and August was called silly season because it was understood no one was reading the newspaper that much, I wonder to what extent this is true right now in July of 2024. I know I'm hyper aware and so are a lot of people on this site, but who else.

The poll denialism in the interview really bothered me for that reason. It feels like there’s not urgency because Biden just kinda feels like it’s going fine. That feels like part of his slow response this week—he just doesn’t feel a sense of urgency

Occam's Razor: you have the human zoomies, calm tf down.

Ever-green post about Democratic Party Politics.

s/week/decade/

Also “we f’ing told you running this guy again was a huge risk when he set himself up perfectly to be a gracious one term president and now we are working through some very understandable rage at the dem party leadership”

Sure, replacing Biden will work, because it'll be a completely different media covering a completely different campaign run by completely different people! /s Retreat, give in, never fight back, apparently, is the Democratic party creed.

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