freelance agent for BIG-DOG (dog industry): There are ways to use curiosity, fellowship, perseverance, etc. as character traits that help direct risk-taking urges and an increased capacity for physical force into constructive ends, but I don't think it neuters men for those positive traits to be gender-nonspecific.

very honestly coming around to the view that the paradigm of non-toxic, community-driven masculinity we need can be shorthanded by "dudes rock"

It's fun to slag on teenage boys but IMO they're not so much ideologically right-wing as they are desperate for the approval and mentorship of older dudes a lot of the time, and we are letting them down on that score (either by trying to indoctrinate them or not interacting with them at all).

curiosity, perseverence, fellowship, sprawl: it's all there!

One problem is that we don't actually believe these are "masculine" qualities. At least I don't

some of these ladies is dudes too

I don't know. It feels disingenuous. I don't think the problem is a lack of options to be "masculine" but trouble finding a fulfilling role in society & community. If we want to solve that by finding positive outlets for testosterone-linked traits, we need to be honest about what those traits are

There are ways to use curiosity, fellowship, perseverance, etc. as character traits that help direct risk-taking urges and an increased capacity for physical force into constructive ends, but I don't think it neuters men for those positive traits to be gender-nonspecific.

That sounds like the ideal, yeah.

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