Brendan Nyhan: Official act. Immune. — Subium • Bluesky web client

Official act. Immune.

He loves that shit.

Is this real? Jesus Christ. Weekend at Bernie’s over trump. A fucking urn over trump.

It's from a March 1990 Playboy interview months after the Chinese government killed hundreds and possibly over a thousand pro-democracy students. A real sociopath that John Roberts wants to hand the gatling gun from PREDATOR to.

Bingo!

What part of "he wants to be a dictator!" is so hard for people to understand? - openly admires Putin and defends Russia's interests over NATO - openly admires other authoritarian leaders - idly muses about dictatorial powers - wants protesters to be shot - argues that he is above the law

-Literally said he wants to be a dictator on camera at 3 times in the span of ~a week -Posted on Truth Social that he can terminate the any part of Constitution -Posted that Presidents need to be able to commit crimes that cross the line after his lawyer talked about them ordering assassinations

If Trump gets in it'll only be Congress who can save us, which does not make me feel better at all.

Do you really believe that this Supreme Court would not find a way to judge an impeachment to be improper and impermissible?

Assuming these were not the Jan 6 “protesters”

Well no, he wouldn’t do that to them so they’re good.

Yeah I'm wondering as well who they were. Esper wasn't Trump's Sec Def for all that long a time. His tenure was late in the Trump presidency, during Jan. 6th but during what else?

Probably the BLM protestors that they cleared out so Trump could do his upside down bible photo op.

But see bsky.app/profile/jvag...

That is, if a “vigorous and energetic” president, as part of their official duties, gives an unlawful order to the military (for which the president enjoys the presumption of immunity), how does the UCMJ apply to those members who aren’t under that immunity umbrella?

He can blanket pardon them

If you can pardon someone before a trial it's not pardon it's immunity.

President can certainly do it under the pardon power. Most obvious example is Nixon was pardoned by Ford. No trial, he hadn't even been charged yet

Worlds most obsolete democracy

Once tRump regains power all restraints on anti brutality by police, especially against minorities, will be lifted. Only a matter of time before large protests develop - which will be put down by extreme violence. The streets will run with blood

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Oh he would do so much worse knowing he could not be held responsible. There will absolutely be mass graves, show trials, public executions. Probably mass rape because that's like Republicans second favorite thing after racism.

Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin' We're finally on our own This summer I hear the drummin' Four dead in Ohio…

12 appellate circuits equals 12 SCOTUS judges - consistent with historical precedents - not packing the court - it makes sense.

There are 13 appellate circuits currently. Otherwise, Yes!

Let's be honest, this supreme court's standard is that if a republican president does it, it is not illegal. The text of the ruling might as well be printed on tissue paper.

Exactly!

Biden should lean into this and start calling him King Donald

AND if some jacked-up flunky overheard that conversation and proceeded to go into the crowd and do what he heard his god say he wanted, that conversation couldn’t even be introduced as evidence 🤮

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Just because the president is immune, I don't think it would make it a lawful order, so I suspect any soldier who followed it could still be charged.

He’ll just pardon them.

He would just call them suckers. He doesn’t care about any individual, only the power they can use to further what he wants. It’s totally ok for him if other people get in trouble as long as he is ok.

You still don’t know how maniacal vicious and soulless trump really is

Did I suggest he wasn't? I am saying the soldiers could still be charged. They are not above the law and are not allowed to follow unlawful orders. Someone suggested he could pardon them, which is true. Not sure if he would, unless someone also paid his pardon fees.

Apparently you don’t know how soulless and vicious trump really is. Did you know that trump wanted to use the Insurrection Act against the George Floyd protesters? What about the time when the helicopters were told to fly low over the protesters? Heard about the private military contractors?

You know who ELSE acted officially…?

Free speech no more. See: Trump calling for military tribunal for Liz Cheney for exercising her right to free speech. This is an anti Trump election. And an anti MAGA Moses Mike election and a Senate majority election. Then, lean on senate/POTUS to expand court & other reforms.

This is why the 2nd amendment exists.

Since this is apparently the judicial reality we live in, shouldn’t that have the effect of reinvigorating the House’s will to use its impeachment power? I mean, it feels silly to ask, but it also feels like it *should* be a logical corollary of this ruling..

Has a president who ordered the deaths of Americans ever been prosecuted? Was Obama?

Biden's next official act should be to have all the justices executed. Tragic that he lacks the spine to do it.

The future Republicans want.

My biggest fear is another Trump presidency spells the end of public protest.

This whole thing is such a Federalist Society nightmare.

Former Rep. Claire McCaskill yesterday was so angry that she called it "Federalist Bullshit*t" on air! I was so proud of her!

...and his "base" would be happy if he did...

Yep.

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That is the scariest thing I have read all day. I no longer recognize my own country

Feature not a bug.