When you’re having lunch with a “friend” and discover they are an absolute fucking lunatic, and you just mumble replies until you can extract yourself from the entire situation.
Notice that she never implies this guy is her friend. Just someone she "knows". Given her wealth, what are the odds he's her peer and can freely leave the situation without reprisal?
I just cannot imagine going from a person of modest means to being fabulously wealthy and spending all my time being mad at people that want to change their lot in life.
"he didn't want to talk about it." Yes ma'am, perhaps consider that forcing sexual conversations on unwitting acquaintances actually makes you the weirdo.
It is ironic that she writes well and casts herself as a malevolent force. “I can’t overstate how little he didn’t want to talk about this,” says it all. She conjures an image of a poor, unwitting guy trying to escape from this bizarre perv rant.
As a 'straight lefty man' my first question would be "penised what?" and why assume that transgender women are automatically lesbian, and if so, why does it matter, fucking get over yourself.
Yeah, exactly. I'm guessing her wealth has isolated her from people who would challenge her and steer her back from the abyss, telling her just how unhinged she sounds. Her so-called lefty straight friend is not doing her any favors by not calling her out.
She never refers to him as a friend. He could very well be an employee at one of the companies she works with, or possibly a hapless service worker whom she noticed wearing a pride flag pin.
There is absolutely no way she'd consider a trans woman 'okay' if they don't have a penis, the SPECTER of penis continues to haunt our SOULS for eternity, regardless of our actual genitals.
I probably sound ignorant when it comes to these issues though I do try to learn enough so that I don't inadvertently or ignorantly offend anyone. I can honestly say it's because I've had a 'live and let live' attitude, so I just let 'em be whatever they are. Southern Baptists worry me more.
My wife used to work for the local pride center, so I've hung out with people of all stripes. When someone like Rowling uses her platform to spread such hate and intolerance, I just have to shake her head. Unfortunately, her attitude is not unique or even that rare, even in the pride community.
I agree. The local pride center where I used to live became a client of mine during a time of turmoil for them. This was about 20 yrs ago, so the trans issue wasn't as much in the conversation. I sat on an interview panel for new CEO & we had a trans woman candidate. In the end, they hired a cis M.
I believe a few months after my wife left the trans community decided to splinter off to form their own center because the pride center director started going full TERF.
In my experience, it's not unusual for there to be turf (no pun intended) wars and personality conflicts that detract from the overall mission of NGOs. In that org I mentioned, it was struggle (seemed to me) between AIDs focused vs other and/or lesbian v gay men. They may have split to 2 orgs.
When conservatives pick up transphobia as a hobby, the words are maybe a little different here and there but it's the same old song and dance.
This seems like the kind of thing that would come up if Rowling were to be put in some kind of conservatorship.
There's something about the traumatizing aspect--which is what often makes folks involved in certain arms of supporting survivors/the survivors who encounter terfs (and I think JKR is one of them?)--that makes them literally insane. Like they are so hypervigilant, it's like probably clinical
and I say this like as a trans person and also as a survivor who had to work through a lot of shit. it's sad, but it would be more sad if they weren't just constantly hitting down and contributing to violence
I buy the contrapoints arg that a lot of this style of transphobia is rooted in displaced trauma scapegoating trans people for the prior crimes of men. but then as people get more and more obsessed it curdles their brains
I think it fits in with a general conservative desire to maintain the hierarchy - to preserve your own ability to punch down at those below you, you also defend the right of those above you to punch down at you.
The conservative hierarchy is based on men being aggressive sexual predators who can’t fight their biology so women need to be submissive and placate men’s emotions. Just like male anger is considered being ‘over emotional.’ Male aggressiveness is excused as natural and projected on to trans women.
“Men can’t help themselves.” “Boys will be boys.” Are just excuses for bad male behavior. But the hierarchy needs that excuse. To conservatives, trans women are men. Therefore, they have all the in-born aggression of men. Conservatives want people to believe men are dangerous to keep men in power.
I mean I think it's also like fear that you can recognize a cis man but you can't always recognize that a person is trans. The traumatized black and white thinking is troubled by it so you become obsessive in "being able to tell" (of course you can't).
I cannot overstate how little I would want to talk with JK Rowling, in particular, about sexual kink in particular, so that man has my sympathy. (If I ever talk with a famous person IRL about sexual kink, please let it be Susie Bright and not JKR.)
This is way funnier when you account for how obsessed with sissification academic TERFs are. Like, that's would be what she was talking about, if this happened.
WTF. I saw this on my timeline earlier but it was only the second paragraph. Seeing it in fuller context makes it somehow so much worse and also even more incoherent.
Yeah. Like assuming the entire thing wasn't just made up by JKR, it sounds like her friend was deeply uncomfortable with the bizarre and highly sexual nature of the conversation she seemingly started out of nowhere, and she totally disrespected him and his boundaries. Great friend she is!
This sounds like sexual harassment. She goes into great detail about how the other person did not want to talk about sexual kinks and practices, how uncomfortable it made them, but she kept going, relishing it.
Bizarre to watch her trying to shore up the belief in a silent majority of terf women with the assertion that most straight men are trans allies. Like, plenty of them are, but it also doesn't make the first thing true?
