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Have we considered the possibility that 4 months is an eternity now (quick, tell me from memory what everyone was arguing about in late February!) and if Biden looks good in a future debate the only people who will remember Thursday are people who were never, ever going to vote for him anyway.
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I know we all live in an ideological social media bubble but I promise you video clips of Biden looking ancient and sounding like he chose the wrong Grail have been circulating in abundance for a very long while now! They don't have special power if they are from The Official Debate!
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Yeah, that’s why his polls have been bad. People know what they’re seeing.
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I mean the good news is that degenerative mental conditions usually get better with time
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Nobody said he's not ancient and looks/sounds bad, he does. It's just not the brand-new information it's suddenly being treated as because some people like to play Fantasy Convention Football.
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oh yeah definitely. i don’t think this is actually going to move the needle that much because it seems like the general consensus among dems is that he’s frail and has a failing brain but we’re still voting for him anyway because trump is way worse. it’s just the media finally catching up
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Remember when Trump was absolutely toast because of the Access Hollywood tape? I think the pundit class was even more sure that Trump was done than they are about Biden. Remember when they wrote Biden off after Iowa in 2020? Whatever the merits of Biden’s candidacy, pundits are consistently wrong.
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Most people would've just seen the 2 clips on social media. They're pretty devastating to his image and the question of whether his age makes him capable of holding the job for 4 years
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There is a flaw in your logic bsky.app/profile/edbu...
I know we all live in an ideological social media bubble but I promise you video clips of Biden looking ancient and sounding like he chose the wrong Grail have been circulating in abundance for a very long while now! They don't have special power if they are from The Official Debate!
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I'm not denying there's an abundance of content in the genre. I think you're underestimating how bad the 2 clips where Trump gets in a zinger are, and overestimating the attention span of 'most people'
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OK well we can sit here all year debating the qualitative Worseness of various clips but I have already seen about 100 clips of him looking and sounding dead and I'm not convinced two additional clips did it, just because every columnist decided to shit their pants over it simultaneously.
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synchronized pants shitting should be an Olympic sport in 2026.
There’s not enough space on that gold medal platform to accommodate all of America’s “thought leaders”
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You are right. I'm a stranger from the other side of the planet, and I hope you don't get the former guy again, friend
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I wouldn’t rule out that possibility. I was told Obama’s first debate as an incumbent was a disaster too but I have no recollection of it.
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It was. Actually somewhat similar. It was his anniversary and he seemed completely out of it. Of course, Obama didn’t come in with the doubts that Biden did, but the pundits were equally sure he was done after that debate.
The story here is that Kristoff and Friedman are wrong about everything, perfect barometers for wrongness. Shouldn't that give us *some* pause that they're driving us off a cliff here?
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in late february every was arguing about the ongoing slaughter in Gaza